Who will be the next U.S. president?

[Infohawk]

What is your official prediction and why?

I don't have a prediction because I can see it going either way. On the one hand I can see Obama winning because the average voter is tired of Republicans and/or blames our current problems on Republicans. On the other hand, I can see race working agains Obama. It was hard enough for Kerry being labeled a northeastern liberal but Obama is going to be called a Hawaiin/Indonesian Musim !#@@@.

Overall, I believe it will be an epic decision and mostly about race. If Obama wins, a corner has been turned in America with regard to race relations.

PS Try not to make this about who you want to win but rather about who you believe will win.

Edit: Poll added per request.

 

[SSSnail]

Bush will declare marshal law, abolish the constitution, fire the branches and crown himself emperor of the NWO.

Long live the king!

 

[extra]

*tinfoil hat, because if I don't someone else will post it!*

There will be a massive terrorist attack and Bush will be the next president!

*/not really*

edit: damn you rofl, posted it while I was posting ;\

 

[alchemize]

It's gonna be another nailbiter I think.

While obviously Obama is the more dynamic candidate, has huge support from the young, educated, independent, minorities, this country is full of old farts and rednecks. Old vs. new.

My prediction is - Obama. I think he gets out the new vote enough to overcome the old ladies.

 

[nageov3t]

price will rise, politicians will philander, you too will get old, and when you do youll fantasize that when you were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders.

in the end, I don't think it really matters.

but it'll probably be Obama

 

[Jiggz]

I hate to speculate but Obama it is not!

 

[ProfJohn]

I'd say it is to early to guess.

I would like it to be McCain, but Obama is going to be hard to beat unless he beats himself via more scandals etc.

 

[Capt Caveman]

As a liberal Democrat, unfortunately, it will be McCain.

 

[Vic]

Obama by a healthy electoral margin, and about 53% of the popular.

 

[jpeyton]

Poll?

Obama will win in November. Stamped and certified.

He'll win in 2012 too, but you can make a thread about that later.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Bush will declare marshal law, abolish the constitution, fire the branches and crown himself emperor of the NWO.

Long live the king!

LOL...Not happening. Bush can barley contain the military now (see all the books written about him by unhappy generals and former accolades) he's lucky the Republicans have not impeached him to disassociate themselves with him for coming election.

obama will win DC, Thats it.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Zebo
obama will win DC, Thats it.

$50 PayPal that he'll win my home state of Oregon?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Zebo
obama will win DC, Thats it.

$50 PayPal that he'll win my home state of Oregon?

Wow, that's saying so much.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Zebo
obama will win DC, Thats it.

$50 PayPal that he'll win my home state of Oregon?

I'm just guessing. What do i know I thought Kerry would Slaughter Bush.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Vic
Obama by a healthy electoral margin, and about 53% of the popular.

That would match the 88 Bush-Dukakis election result.

I don't think Obama does THAT well, especially with all the problems he has been having lately. I'd say 51 or 52 at most of Obama.

Now if something drastic comes out about Obama then McCain could easily get to 53%, but it would take something bad. Having been around for such a long time McCain really doesn't have to worry about some skeleton coming out of his closet though, so I don't see a situation in which a large amount of people all of a sudden decide they don't want to vote for McCain anymore. Obama though could pull a Dukakis, a 17 point lead during the summer turning into a loss in the fall.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Vic
Obama by a healthy electoral margin, and about 53% of the popular.

That would match the 88 Bush-Dukakis election result.

I don't think Obama does THAT well, especially with all the problems he has been having lately. I'd say 51 or 52 at most of Obama.

Now if something drastic comes out about Obama then McCain could easily get to 53%, but it would take something bad. Having been around for such a long time McCain really doesn't have to worry about some skeleton coming out of his closet though, so I don't see a situation in which a large amount of people all of a sudden decide they don't want to vote for McCain anymore. Obama though could pull a Dukakis, a 17 point lead during the summer turning into a loss in the fall.

Obama and Dukakis have nothing in common besides the fact that they are both Democrats and both went to Harvard, but nice try. Yet Another Pipe Dream post from PJ, with the usual alluding to some failed Democrat of the past. Too bad you got Bob Dole running again this year.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Bush will declare marshal law, abolish the constitution, fire the branches and crown himself emperor of the NWO.

Long live the king!

Martial law.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: loki8481
price will rise, politicians will philander, you too will get old, and when you do youll fantasize that when you were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders.

in the end, I don't think it really matters.

but it'll probably be Obama

the statement sounds like i've heard it before, feels familiar

edit: the first part

edit: were you the gay hillary supporter from new york that is voting for mccain that i saw on the daily show (?) an hours or so ago?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: loki8481
price will rise, politicians will philander, you too will get old, and when you do youll fantasize that when you were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders.

in the end, I don't think it really matters.

but it'll probably be Obama

the statement sounds like i've heard it before, feels familiar

edit: the first part

edit: were you the gay hillary supporter from new york that is voting for mccain that i saw on the daily show (?) an hours or so ago?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xfq_A8nXMsQ

and I was not I still consider myself undecided.

edit: if I vote at all in November, it will be to vote against Lautenberg.

if dems consider McCain too old, I'd love to know what they think of a guy who'd be in his 90's at the end of his term.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Vic
Obama by a healthy electoral margin, and about 53% of the popular.

That would match the 88 Bush-Dukakis election result.

I don't think Obama does THAT well, especially with all the problems he has been having lately. I'd say 51 or 52 at most of Obama.

Now if something drastic comes out about Obama then McCain could easily get to 53%, but it would take something bad. Having been around for such a long time McCain really doesn't have to worry about some skeleton coming out of his closet though, so I don't see a situation in which a large amount of people all of a sudden decide they don't want to vote for McCain anymore. Obama though could pull a Dukakis, a 17 point lead during the summer turning into a loss in the fall.

Obama and Dukakis have nothing in common besides the fact that they are both Democrats and both went to Harvard, but nice try. Yet Another Pipe Dream post from PJ, with the usual alluding to some failed Democrat of the past. Too bad you got Bob Dole running again this year.

I didn't really compare Obama and Dukakis on issues, I was suggesting that Obama's lead could turn to dust as people get to know him better. And the Republican attack machine, all outside groups of course, unleash everything they have on him.

 

[DerekWilson]

i think it'll be obama ...

having said that i think both are shit choices.

my best hope is that obama will make someone more like kucinich or gravel (too bad he left the left for the libertarian party) his vp and that mccain will make someone like ron paul or another actual conservative his running mate.

that way, no matter who wins, at least we'll have hope of a better future if some terrorist assassinates the president.

/sarcasm

i wonder how many watch lists i just got put on

its too bad all those douches implementing warrantless domestic wiretaps won't have a sense of humor ...

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Vic
Obama by a healthy electoral margin, and about 53% of the popular.

That would match the 88 Bush-Dukakis election result.

I don't think Obama does THAT well, especially with all the problems he has been having lately. I'd say 51 or 52 at most of Obama.

Now if something drastic comes out about Obama then McCain could easily get to 53%, but it would take something bad. Having been around for such a long time McCain really doesn't have to worry about some skeleton coming out of his closet though, so I don't see a situation in which a large amount of people all of a sudden decide they don't want to vote for McCain anymore. Obama though could pull a Dukakis, a 17 point lead during the summer turning into a loss in the fall.

Obama and Dukakis have nothing in common besides the fact that they are both Democrats and both went to Harvard, but nice try. Yet Another Pipe Dream post from PJ, with the usual alluding to some failed Democrat of the past. Too bad you got Bob Dole running again this year.

I didn't really compare Obama and Dukakis on issues, I was suggesting that Obama's lead could turn to dust as people get to know him better. And the Republican attack machine, all outside groups of course, unleash everything they have on him.

So what you're duh-verting then is that you're proud of being a member of the party that consistently wins through its attack machine, and not on the issues, and by that means manages to always break every single one of its core principles (yaknow, like actually being conservative)?

Either that or you're just stating the obvious that could happen in any election to any candidate. You may as well bring up McCain's health and how he could die before November.

 

[Zebo]

party that consistently wins through its attack machine, and not on the issues, and by that means manages to always break every single one of its core principles (yaknow, like actually being conservative)?

Heh. Aint that the truth. then again maybe that's not want people want since I cant think of one Paleoconservative in power these days. Are we all liberals in disguise?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Zebo

party that consistently wins through its attack machine, and not on the issues, and by that means manages to always break every single one of its core principles (yaknow, like actually being conservative)?

Heh. Aint that the truth. then again maybe that's not want people want since I cant think of one Paleoconservative in power these days.

I think the people these past 2 go-arounds were just hoping for Compassionate Conservative, but this is another thread.

 

[trenchfoot]

if mccain took the same beating that obama did over the last few months, i really don't think he'd come out of it looking as good as obama is at the moment.

mccain's bad temper would've gotten him into some deep doodoo and some embarassing kodak moments for sure. i mean, just look how pathetic his face time on camera is, and he's yet to feel the smallest measure of heat that obama is going to bring to bear on him.

i'm sure obama is going to exploit this inherent character flaw of mccain's, the same way any good fighter would exploit an opponent's weakness. in a debate, obama would do well to get under mccain's skin as quickly as possible to make mccain's hair-trigger temper work against himself. it's just a matter of pinning him against the ropes and stinging him into a rage.

bust out yer stash of mega-size vals and 'ludes mccain, yer gonn'a need'um.

edit - obama by a knockout....or a slow bleed tko if he prefers. his choice.