Who was the moron who decided that all transformers would be built into plugs?

[notfred]

If they'd just move the transformer 1 foot up the wire away from the plug, then you could use all 6 plugs on a powerstrip and not just 3 or 4. That annoys me :|

 

[Anubis]

my powerstrip has room for 6 transformers. its one of thoes special ones thats got lots of room.

kinda like the wide lanes in seinfeld

 

[Colt45]

Mr. $$$

if you mount it right on the wall instead of an extra 1' or whatever of cord & plug x the 1000trillion wall-warts that exist, you save a few bucks.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Colt45
Mr. $$$

if you mount it right on the wall instead of an extra 1' or whatever of cord & plug x the 1000trillion wall-warts that exist, you save a few bucks.

No you dont, instead of having 6ft of wire and a transformer, jsut have 5ft of wire, a transformer, and 1 more foot of wire on the other side.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: Colt45
Mr. $$$

if you mount it right on the wall instead of an extra 1' or whatever of cord & plug x the 1000trillion wall-warts that exist, you save a few bucks.

No you dont, instead of having 6ft of wire and a transformer, jsut have 5ft of wire, a transformer, and 1 more foot of wire on the other side.

I guess so, the wire on the primary side would be running 120v though, instead of the usual 6,9,12,18v [etc] output, so wire would need better rated insulation, not that 120v is anything special..

but the wire on most wallwarts is super ghetto

 

[Sluggo]

Some products do offer the mid-wire wart, I buy those if given any sort of choice.

 

[Scootin159]

We should just have our homes wired for 12v DC. I would guess 12v is the most common, and if you need something else you can include a basic DC->DC power supply that would be MUCH smaller and allow you whatever voltage you need.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: Scootin159
We should just have our homes wired for 12v DC. I would guess 12v is the most common, and if you need something else you can include a basic DC->DC power supply that would be MUCH smaller and allow you whatever voltage you need.

providing all things are equal to what we have now as far as power consumption goes, the appliances would be pulling 10x the current...

so the average house lines for 120v, 15A would be 12v, 150A.
thats a damn pain in the ass to design around

the main breaker in a normal house is what now.. 50 or 100amp? i forget.. but it would now be 500/1000A. thats a *lot*of fvcking current.

the losses in transmitting that from the power co would be crazy.. and the power lines would have to be huge to push that much current

 

[brxndxn]

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Originally posted by: Scootin159
We should just have our homes wired for 12v DC. I would guess 12v is the most common, and if you need something else you can include a basic DC->DC power supply that would be MUCH smaller and allow you whatever voltage you need.
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providing all things are equal to what we have now as far as power consumption goes, the appliances would be pulling 10x the current...

so the average house lines for 120v, 15A would be 12v, 150A.
thats a damn pain in the ass to design around

the main breaker in a normal house is what now.. 50 or 100amp? i forget.. but it would now be 500/1000A. thats a *lot*of fvcking current.

the losses in transmitting that from the power co would be crazy.. and the power lines would have to be huge to push that much current

Stop thinking inside the box.. It could easily be done if there was just one main step-down transformer in the fuse box! Then, you could run 12V DC throughout the house..

However, 12V DC causes a lot of noise and it would cause all sorts of things (like speakers) to have weird noise in the background.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: Scootin159
We should just have our homes wired for 12v DC. I would guess 12v is the most common, and if you need something else you can include a basic DC->DC power supply that would be MUCH smaller and allow you whatever voltage you need.

providing all things are equal to what we have now as far as power consumption goes, the appliances would be pulling 10x the current...

so the average house lines for 120v, 15A would be 12v, 150A.
thats a damn pain in the ass to design around

the main breaker in a normal house is what now.. 50 or 100amp? i forget.. but it would now be 500/1000A. thats a *lot*of fvcking current.

the losses in transmitting that from the power co would be crazy.. and the power lines would have to be huge to push that much current

Mr.Tesla Demonstrated that to Mr. Westinghouse, much to the chagrin of Mr.Edison.
Although , Mr.Edison, in the end, seems to be all that is remembered.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: notfred
If they'd just move the transformer 1 foot up the wire away from the plug, then you could use all 6 plugs on a powerstrip and not just 3 or 4. That annoys me :|

Furman Sound Wall Wart Solution.... Comes in more outlets too....

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Stop thinking inside the box.. It could easily be done if there was just one main step-down transformer in the fuse box! Then, you could run 12V DC throughout the house..

However, 12V DC causes a lot of noise and it would cause all sorts of things (like speakers) to have weird noise in the background.

Ok, fair enough.
transmitted same as usual, but then transformered down to 10v or so AC at the house.

then, to get the same amount of power as a 120v 100a house, we'd have our 12v, 1000A.

so, we'll need some rectifier that can handle 1000A, so that will be some big focker.
then some *HUGE* caps for filtering, maybe a bigass choke between the rectifier and cap(s).

but still, we have 1000A here.. so the house wiring is still going to have to be gigantic compared to 120v AC