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Who should I trust

snidy1

Golden Member
In the forums I'm hearing that the MSI NEO FIS2R is crap. But the Anand review says it's awesome. Now I'm confused. I wanted this board before, I heard all of the negitive on it so I canceled my order. Should I reorder it?
 
i dont think AT is allowed to post a negative review <hint hint>
if the forums guys arent liking it then dont buy it.

😉
 
Originally posted by: Wurrmm
I would wait for the Abit review first before getting anything.

I'm going to wait for the Abit review, that board looks great. When is it suppose to be up?
 
I'd definitely pass if those that actually own the motherboard say it's crap.
With all due respect to AnandTech they don't have the time or resources to test dozens of differest HDD's/graphics cards/NIC's etc. They won't likely be using the board day in and day out for weeks on end as their primary systems like the actual owners of the board will have.

I'd always trust those that actually own the motherboard over any review site, rgardless of how reputable is.
It wouldnt be the first time AnandTech has given a motherboard an extremely good review, when most owners have panned it terribly.
The old MSI K7T Pro2-A was widely hated across most of the forum despite AT's excellent review of it.
 
The thing I am hearing is that AT review used a board with the old bios V1.0 and other bioses are the ones that cause problems EG cant overclock worth sheet.

The problem is that all current boards ship with ver 1.1 or later so that why people are having problems with it,and other thing I hear is that if you flash your current board to bios ver 1.0 (that OC good) you lose your onboard promise controller.

So maybe a later bios upgrade will fix it but I would not buy one as it is right now.
 
It's not that the board itself is crap, the current BIOS is crap. Even though it's the board I own, I wouldn't recommend it until MSI gets it's act together and releases a BIOS that fixes all the issues that people are having.

Other than that, it runs fine.
 
I've also see reports of WILD Vcore fluxes on the MSI board. I have a great deal of respect for Evan. He does a great job with the reviews. However, this would not be the first time an MSI board has great specs, but doesn't perform well and is full of bugs MSI has never been an enthusiast/overclockers board.

I have the IC7 and am very pleased with it.
 
Originally posted by: oldfart
I've also see reports of WILD Vcore fluxes on the MSI board. I have a great deal of respect for Evan. He does a great job with the reviews. However, this would not be the first time an MSI board has great specs, but doesn't perform well and is full of bugs MSI has never been an enthusiast/overclockers board.

Enthusiasts are not necessarily overclockers. I consider myself an enthusiast, but I've reached the point where if I want a 3GHz CPU I'll buy a 3GHz CPU. So a board doesn't need to OC like mad to appeal to me. That said, MSI's BIOS support has always been fairly crappy.
 
Looks like Evan updated his review.



http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1820&p=4

May 7th, 2003 Update: Before we go on we should mention a few BIOS issues we ran into that we have been unable to confirm until recent hours. These issues are well documented over the Internet by various users of MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R and MSI 875P Neo-LSR motherboards that ship with BIOS versions 1.1 and 1.2. These problems are two-fold (so far):

1. Overclocking via the BIOS using BIOS version 1.1 or 1.2 with MSI 875P motherboards is broken, you must use MSI's Windows CoreCell overclocking utility bundled with your motherboard.

And

2. High voltage and temperature variation.

The first issue does not seem to affect MSI 875P motherboards using BIOS version 1.0, which we used for this review during 800MHz FSB overclocking. The second issue seems to be related to MSI's new CoreCell technology. CoreCell is very aggressive with how it regulates voltages during idle and heavy loads, and apparently this is what has caused such large variance.

We are currently working with MSI to see if they can remedy these issues immediately, as this is not acceptable for enthusiasts that like to push their motherboard to the limit. We will report our findings in our 875P roundup later this month.

 
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