Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Oh wonderful, some Somali parent loses a child to the greed of Al-Quida, how about all those US parents who lost their sons and daughters to the stupidity pissing contest ego of some clueless US President and his administration. We can blame Vietnam on LBJ, Nixon, Kennedy, Eisenhower, and Truman, 58,000 American lives pissed away for nothing, another 2,000,000 Vietnamese body bags filled, whoopie we gave better than we got, but does that kill ratio matter one iota in the end?
Oh when will we ever learn?
Get a clue compuwiz1, we don't have department of expendable human resources either.
And to add injury to insult, our so called war on terror has created more terrorists than we had before 911. Can anyone spell counterproductive or clueless?
Yes, because 911 is our fault and each and every terrorist that has ever joined a terrorist agency is directly our fault.
Yes, because everyone who opposes the US has no reason at all and is nothing but an evil bond villain minion. The US has never done any wrong. It has never supported brutal colonial regimes, never supported brutal regimes who serve its interests in exchange for security, never assassinated leaders who won't serve its demands, never created terrorist forces to force populations to do as it demands, never armed thuggish regimes.
IN the middle east in partiucular, it has never allied with and backed regimes that oppress and torture to this day, never practiced ruthless policies with Saddam where he was supported if he'd launch an aggressive invasion of Iran in the longest war in the 20th century where a million casualties were caused, incenting him with the promise of allowing him to retake Kuwait and then using his doing so to turn on him when it suited our interests, never creating US military bases in Saudi Arabia offensive to many Muslims, never then forced sanctions killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi women and children largely with shortages and disease, never following that war told the Kurds to rise up against Saddam and then allowed Saddam to mow them down because we felt safer with him in charge, just with his military weakened, nevergave billions in aid to regimes like Egypt's who regularly torture, never overthrew democracy in Iran for cheap oil, never tried to establish a radical right-wing regime subservient to US interests in Iraq and ran the war against Saddam so badly that the there were nearly a million Iraqis killed, and millions of refugees and there national resources of 20 billion dollars just wasted to corruption, never backed Israel's corrupt oppression of Palestinians for our own interests to have an 'ally' who would do favors such as being the middleman to sell missiles to Iran so we could raise funds for the terrorist Contras Congress had prohibited funding.
No, no one has any reason to oppose the US. They're all just evil nazis.
Now, let's see if you can combine an ad hominem attack and a straw man to show how bankrupt your commentary is:
never I bet you think we never landed on the moon, either.
Bravo!
Now, let's add a little irony, to the above, so that you take an example which argues AGAINST your claims, and try to turn it around into an attack on the other side:
I bet you refuse to believe that we never found WMDs in Iraq.
Astoundingly disgusting. Yes, it's those who make a habit of recognizing US wrongs who are the defenders that there really were WMD and the war was well done.
Time to back off a little from the patently absurd and try to weasel in some rationalization of the 'mistakes'.
I bet you refuse to believe that the US was supplied intel from other countries regarding Iraq's military stance and that we weren't the only country diving in.
Of course! The fact that the critical WMD intelligence came from "Curveball" who was an unreliable refugee in Germany who was trying to buy his way in one of the few spots for asylum that only one in 25 Iraqi refugees could get by telling them what they wanted to hear, the fact that the US never met or interviewed Curveball before basing its national policy on hiw claims, the fact the US ignored German warnings he was unreliable to do so, the fact that the Vice President was repatedly visiting the CIA to directly pressure its analyssts to come to the wrong conclusion, following his policiy determination to invade Iraq for reasons of oil and the Neocon power agenda, as reflected in his 'energy taek force' minutes having maps of Iraqi oil fields -the fact that Bush lied to obtain the authorization for war promising it would only be used for inspections if the inspections could be completed, and instead ordered the inspectors OUT as they were close to concluding there were no WMD so he could invade before they did - doesn't matter, it was an honest oops!
Now, let's just argue he's an idiot for an opinion he hasn't expressed, about which you do not know the answer yourself:
I bet you think Osama is still in Afghanistan.
Now, back to the rationalizations - make an allegation based on speculation about something you claim might have been possible to happen, while you ignore the fact that it had been refused by the actual leadership, ignoring the US administration's efforts to lie to say it had happened while it had not:
[I bet you refuse to believe that Iraq was the target for Al-Qaeda's next home base. Blah blah blah, neve[/quote]
And now, try to make us not notice the idiocy above by topping it with even more shocking idiocy to the point that you earn - anf I now award you - the Irony of the Week award:
rmind. You just keep right on buying into your bullshit garbage.