Who said this quote ? (about atheism)

[crawford]

Im writing a college essay on atheism, and my friend told me this quote "man created god, god didnt create man." - its something along the lines of that. i need to cite sources and whatnot so i need something more concrete. anyone know who said it ? I tried googling it but I just got a bunch of bible BS.

Also, anyone know any good sources to learn about atheism ? My local library had 0 books about it, yet they had at least a hundred books dealing with christianity and judiasm.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Likely that's just a brainless butchering of Voltaire's "If God did not exist it would be necessary to invent him"

Voltaire was a believer, but that quote is the basis of much of what an atheist believes. Man is a weak-minded little sheep who refuses to believe that he's a cosmic blip with no higher purpose and no prospect of eternal life. So man creates God in his image in a foolish attempt to convince himself that the big dirt nap isn't the end but merely the beginning.

It's also possible that it's a mistaken restatement of Nietzsche's "Which is it, is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's?"

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Likely that's just a brainless butchering of Voltaire's "If God did not exist it would be necessary to invent him"

Voltaire was a believer, but that quote is the basis of much of what an atheist believes. Man is a weak-minded little sheep who refuses to believe that he's a cosmic blip with no higher purpose and no prospect of eternal life. So man creates God in his image in a foolish attempt to convince himself that the big dirt nap isn't the end but merely the beginning.

It's also possible that it's a mistaken restatement of Nietzsche's "Which is it, is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's?"

Actually religion and god play a big role in people's happiness. It is far from foolish, it's necessary for some people.

 

[0roo0roo]

http://www.infidels.org/index.shtml
http://www.au.org/
http://www.positiveatheism.org/index.shtml

http://www.ffrf.org/

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Likely that's just a brainless butchering of Voltaire's "If God did not exist it would be necessary to invent him"

Voltaire was a believer, but that quote is the basis of much of what an atheist believes. Man is a weak-minded little sheep who refuses to believe that he's a cosmic blip with no higher purpose and no prospect of eternal life. So man creates God in his image in a foolish attempt to convince himself that the big dirt nap isn't the end but merely the beginning.

It's also possible that it's a mistaken restatement of Nietzsche's "Which is it, is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's?"

i like nietzche's quote better

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Likely that's just a brainless butchering of Voltaire's "If God did not exist it would be necessary to invent him"

Voltaire was a believer, but that quote is the basis of much of what an atheist believes. Man is a weak-minded little sheep who refuses to believe that he's a cosmic blip with no higher purpose and no prospect of eternal life. So man creates God in his image in a foolish attempt to convince himself that the big dirt nap isn't the end but merely the beginning.

It's also possible that it's a mistaken restatement of Nietzsche's "Which is it, is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's?"

Actually religion and god play a big role in people's happiness. It is far from foolish, it's necessary for some people.

Arguably it plays a bigger role in more people's unhappiness than it plays in certain people's happiness...especially in Voltaire's day.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Likely that's just a brainless butchering of Voltaire's "If God did not exist it would be necessary to invent him"

Voltaire was a believer, but that quote is the basis of much of what an atheist believes. Man is a weak-minded little sheep who refuses to believe that he's a cosmic blip with no higher purpose and no prospect of eternal life. So man creates God in his image in a foolish attempt to convince himself that the big dirt nap isn't the end but merely the beginning.

It's also possible that it's a mistaken restatement of Nietzsche's "Which is it, is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's?"

Actually religion and god play a big role in people's happiness. It is far from foolish, it's necessary for some people.

The same could be said for drugs, alcohol, rioting at soccer games, murdering infidels or stepping on small animals while wearing thigh-high boots with 6" heels. Everything makes somebody happy, that doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea. It might make somebody happy to stick their head in the sand and ignore a medical problem instead of treating it, but a placebo rarely works when there's trouble. If God is a placebo who only makes people happy then he's no better than a nice dose of heroin.

 

[crawford]

Hell yes, Nietzsche's quote fits my paper perfectly. Thanks guys.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Likely that's just a brainless butchering of Voltaire's "If God did not exist it would be necessary to invent him"

Voltaire was a believer, but that quote is the basis of much of what an atheist believes. Man is a weak-minded little sheep who refuses to believe that he's a cosmic blip with no higher purpose and no prospect of eternal life. So man creates God in his image in a foolish attempt to convince himself that the big dirt nap isn't the end but merely the beginning.

It's also possible that it's a mistaken restatement of Nietzsche's "Which is it, is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's?"

Actually religion and god play a big role in people's happiness. It is far from foolish, it's necessary for some people.

Arguably it plays a bigger role in more people's unhappiness than it plays in certain people's happiness...especially in Voltaire's day.

Like anything else in our human society, it has it's up and downs...

 

[StageLeft]

Undoubtedly God makes some people unhappy and others very happy. Without religion/God there would not be zealot terrorists. Similarly there would be less peace and good will (yes religion can promote it) in the world.

 

[Legendary]

Nietzsche is the man.

 

[EXman]

Without religion/God there would not be zealot terrorists.

What? are you kidding? You can be a zealot w/o religion.

Similarly there would be less peace and good will (yes religion can promote it) in the world.

understatement of a lifetime how many atheist groups do 1 millionth the good religious groups do.

please don't respond about the bad stuff that happens because of religion that is an obvious and tired arguement used by boring an unimaginative posters which you are not

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Legendary
Nietzsche is the man.

He's great for quotes.. "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

 

[gopunk]

Similarly there would be less peace and good will (yes religion can promote it) in the world.

understatement of a lifetime how many atheist groups do 1 millionth the good religious groups do.

how many atheists groups are there?

without religion, presumably those who would have been religious would still continue to do good things. unless they were just doing it for brownie points with god.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Undoubtedly God makes some people unhappy and others very happy. Without religion/God there would not be zealot terrorists. Similarly there would be less peace and good will (yes religion can promote it) in the world.

Aren't some communists zealot terrorists? I guess you could call communism a non-theist religion though.

Way more people have been killed in the name of communism than in the name of any theistic religion.

 

[EXman]

how many atheists groups are there?

exactly my point

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: EXman

how many atheists groups are there?

exactly my point

uh you can't say that religion is great and all that because there are no atheist groups... there are no atheist groups because atheists don't care enough about atheism to get into groups. what would they talk about? their lack of belief? i mean there's only so much you can say about htat... "yea... god doesn't exist..... yea...."

you'd do better to look at groups that are not religious (different from atheist groups). like united way (founded by religious folk, but i don't think you can consider them religious now) or americorps.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Undoubtedly God makes some people unhappy and others very happy. Without religion/God there would not be zealot terrorists. Similarly there would be less peace and good will (yes religion can promote it) in the world.

Aren't some communists zealot terrorists? I guess you could call communism a non-theist religion though.

Way more people have been killed in the name of communism than in the name of any theistic religion.

anything that works people up into a frenzy has them. personally i feel religion for those people is just an excuse... if there were no such thing as religion, they'd find something else to be a zealot over. like macs and pcs or something

 

[Soybomb]

I always liked:
"I contend we are both atheists? I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours as well."
Stephen F. Roberts

 

[crawford]

Originally posted by: Soybomb
I always liked:
"I contend we are both atheists? I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours as well."
Stephen F. Roberts

That is great ! I will see if I can sneak that one in at the end of the essay

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Undoubtedly God makes some people unhappy and others very happy. Without religion/God there would not be zealot terrorists. Similarly there would be less peace and good will (yes religion can promote it) in the world.

Aren't some communists zealot terrorists? I guess you could call communism a non-theist religion though.

Way more people have been killed in the name of communism than in the name of any theistic religion.

Are you out of your mind? Please provide a statistic to that effect. Communism has only existed in theory since the mid 19th century; organized religion for thousands of years. I can't believe you honestly think that radical communists have killed more people than radical religious fanatics.

Check it out

Kind of a long article and pretty vague but I'd be aghast if deaths due to communism added up to anything near the figures on that page.

 

[matt426malm]

Originally posted by: Soybomb
I always liked:
"I contend we are both atheists? I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why I reject yours as well."
Stephen F. Roberts

There are a LOT of people at my Lutheran college that will just never understand that. I sit in my gen-ed class and listen to religous people laugh at how silly Gilgamesh is and how babylonians were idiots for there religon. I just shake my head.