Who paid for Senator Clinton's trip to Isreal

[Tom]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I would hope it was the taxpayers money as she's going there as a representitive of them.

can i ask you what business a senator of NY has in Isreal?

At a minimum the same business a US senator has in ANY ally or potential ally of the US. One of the primary duties of the US government, which she is part of, is international relations.

She isn't a NY senator, btw, she's a US senator that represents NY.

NY doesn't need to be represented in Israel by her. what a waste of my tax dollars.

They aren't YOUR tax dollars. They're OUR tax dollars.

it's not my vote either. it's our vote.

No, it is your vote. But once the votes are counted, our elected officials decide what OUR policies are, and what taxes WE will pay to enable those policies.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: UDT89
because i wanted to know why she felt the need to go.

and if she was visiting as a US rep. not a NYS rep.....why would NYS have to pay?

all i wanted to know was who paid for her to go, thats all.

I don't think so. I think you hate Hillary Clinton and are looking for an excuse to stoke that hate. You want some fresh rational reason you can pin on her to maintain your flagging emotional state, some fresh gas for your anger. You need an adjustment to maintain your brain's chemical cocktail addiction to rage.

What he said.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

with all due respect back at you, all i see Hillary Clinton as is an opportunist. she has changed her tune to win votes in what i see as her hopefulness for an upcoming Presidential bid.
let us not forget she approved of the war in Iraq, and now is flip flopping because the war has become unpopular. this is becoming commonplace as she caters to the popular opinion.

i don't see how her trip to Israel is going to make an iota of difference to anyone but herself.

I don't agree she's changed her tune (and I am not particularly a fan of Sen. Clinton). She authorized the use of force - it was (and I think you will have a hard time disagreeing with this) the White House and the Pentagon who completely bungled the process of prosecuting the war. She has, throughout, been one of the more hawkish Democrats.

I don't really believe her support of the war, or lack thereof, has anything to do with visiting Israel, which has a unique, historic level of importance at the moment.

I know you personally dislike Hilary (and God knows you're not alone), but you should be grateful IMO - she is probably about as conservative a senator as your state is likely to elect at the moment (she's certainly far more centrist than Chuck Schumer). It's funny - I happen to work with a couple of people who are very highly placed in AIPAC - they are both strong Bush supporters but like Hilary and would probably support her over, say, Bill Frist.

 

[UDT89]

i dont hate clinton......not even the slightest as some other idiot members decided to deduce from what i was asking.

all i wanted to know was who funds senator travel, the gov't or the state they represent.

thats it.

do i think she's gearing up for 2008? yes. is this country ready for a woman leader? i dont think so.

but with what's out there, i wouldnt doubt if she won.

all I know is there needs to be an end point put in place for Iraq.......cause this is just getting ridiculous.

 

[Polish3d]

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[bctbct]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: moshquerade

it's not my vote either. it's our vote.

With all due respect, your feigned outrage about this rings hollow. The irony is that you support President Bush, who has spent hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars and thousands of American lives in support of a foreign policy agenda premised on the notion that Israel is our most important ally and her interests are as important as our own in strategic terms, yet you claim to be bothered by the idea that a high-visibility US senator would spend, say $30K (this is admittedly a complete wild-ass guess on my part about the cost of her trip) to visit the same country at a time that it really does look as though WWIII is a real possibility as a result of its conflict with a neighbor. You do the math.

with all due respect back at you, all i see Hillary Clinton as is an opportunist. she has changed her tune to win votes in what i see as her hopefulness for an upcoming Presidential bid.
let us not forget she approved of the war in Iraq, and now is flip flopping because the war has become unpopular. this is becoming commonplace as she caters to the popular opinion.

i don't see how her trip to Israel is going to make an iota of difference to anyone but herself.

Maybe she is catering to public opinion, you know, the way it used to be, "public", Of the People For the People blah blah blah.

Better than that partisan bs of the republican party scum.

Bush is just looking for another war zone to send Haliburton to rebuild.