Actually, while BFG cards are no doubt wonderful, I think your example is very good, because all else being equal a diamond toilet is better than a golden one, at least in terms of value. BFG is good, but eVGA is normally cheaper, normally overclocked more for the $$$, and possibly offers a better warranty. I know BFG is good, but to me eVGA is clearly better. Also, this is pretty OT, so sorry, and I'll drop it now.
Actually, while BFG cards are no doubt wonderful, I think your example is very good, because all else being equal a diamond toilet is better than a golden one, at least in terms of value. BFG is good, but eVGA is normally cheaper, normally overclocked more for the $$$, and possibly offers a better warranty. I know BFG is good, but to me eVGA is clearly better. Also, this is pretty OT, so sorry, and I'll drop it now.
Originally posted by: Rollo
I don't think a tweaked X1800XT is what he had in mind?
Rollo, then the question is, Why didn't you say anything about his wanting a GTX? You clearly pointed out that he doesnt want to game, yet all he lists is just that, gaming video cards. And when a faster card is listed (against nVidia I might add) you give the confused look? Please explain how your post is relevant more so than mine. ty.
The way i see it, with respect to Nvidia, there is only workstation cards and desktop cards.
The workstation cards, like a quadro, are specialized for creating video graphics and games as they revolve around openGL.
The desktop cards, like a geforce, are specialized for playing video graphics and games as they revolve around directX.
Both cards can be used for creating and playing video graphics and games, but each has their specialization.
Although im not going to be playing games, but since i will be playing video graphics, as this is my fundamental focus, then clearly i should be aiming for a geforce card.
However, when it comes to picking a desktop card, if the buyer is looking to only use the card for video graphics playback, then any mid to high end card will do the job just fine, as aiming for a top end card like a geforce 7800GTX 256 or 512 is total overkill. But if the buyer also wants to game or simply wants to use the card for gaming, then a geforce 7800GTX 256 or 512 is a wise choice.
So in my case, i should not be taking a 7800GTX 256 or 512. However, because i plan on selling my computer to a friend in the very near future, since i only need my computer for a short period of time, or in the advent that i decide to hand down my computer to a family member, then it only makes sense for me to get a high end desktop card since one of my friends or the family member will definitely want to game.
And the desktop card that i will be getting will either be the BFG 7800GTX 256MB or the eVGA 7800GTX 512MB, with the latter probably being the first pick. How can i resist such an offering on a 7800GTX 512 card.
The workstation cards, like a quadro, are specialized for creating video graphics and games as they revolve around openGL.
The desktop cards, like a geforce, are specialized for playing video graphics and games as they revolve around directX.
Both cards can be used for creating and playing video graphics and games, but each has their specialization.
Although im not going to be playing games, but since i will be playing video graphics, as this is my fundamental focus, then clearly i should be aiming for a geforce card.
However, when it comes to picking a desktop card, if the buyer is looking to only use the card for video graphics playback, then any mid to high end card will do the job just fine, as aiming for a top end card like a geforce 7800GTX 256 or 512 is total overkill. But if the buyer also wants to game or simply wants to use the card for gaming, then a geforce 7800GTX 256 or 512 is a wise choice.
So in my case, i should not be taking a 7800GTX 256 or 512. However, because i plan on selling my computer to a friend in the very near future, since i only need my computer for a short period of time, or in the advent that i decide to hand down my computer to a family member, then it only makes sense for me to get a high end desktop card since one of my friends or the family member will definitely want to game.
And the desktop card that i will be getting will either be the BFG 7800GTX 256MB or the eVGA 7800GTX 512MB, with the latter probably being the first pick. How can i resist such an offering on a 7800GTX 512 card.
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Rollo
I don't think a tweaked X1800XT is what he had in mind?
Rollo, then the question is, Why didn't you say anything about his wanting a GTX? You clearly pointed out that he doesnt want to game, yet all he lists is just that, gaming video cards. And when a faster card is listed (against nVidia I might add) you give the confused look? Please explain how your post is relevant more so than mine. ty.
Sure thing PCSurgeon:
You recommended he wait for the refresh of a part he knows does not work, and has a pretty good chance of not working either. (most here would agree the R580 and R520 are pretty similar)
I didn't advise him against the 7800GTX because in the line I quoted, he said he wanted a high end card.
So his options are to A. wait for a card that likely won't work B. Buy the card that likely will, that he wants to buy.
That is why my post is more relevant than yours.
NOW if he had said, "I just bought a high end system and want to spend $500 on a graphics card next week" then I like your advice fine.
X1900XT FTW, although I'm interested to see how it holds up vs $540 7800GT SLI.
Rollos advice is more relevant. But i should have been more clear on the fact that all ATI radeon cards have the incompatibility issue with my monitor, as stated by Eizo, the company i got my monitor from, and not just the X1800XT. Certainly one could assume that its possible that the X1900 could work out, but that is a very unlikely event since all radeon models up to the X1800XT are apparently not working. So to assume that the X1900 is suddenly going to work is just being irrationally optimistic. And when all Nvidia cards are working fine, then it only makes sense to go with Nvidia. Especially when Nvidia, the company itself, has bought over 1000 Eizo monitors in that last few years, which is a very positive relationship between the companies.
Even more, nvidia has a feature or technology in its cards which is actually designed to work with high end flat panel displays in DVI mode. I dont recall the name of this feature. Perhaps its video color correction, which is part of pure video.
But this is irrelevant. Whats relevant is that i need to get one of those geforce cards as quickly as i can. Right now i am like a microprocessor sitting on idle and doing nothing.
Even more, nvidia has a feature or technology in its cards which is actually designed to work with high end flat panel displays in DVI mode. I dont recall the name of this feature. Perhaps its video color correction, which is part of pure video.
But this is irrelevant. Whats relevant is that i need to get one of those geforce cards as quickly as i can. Right now i am like a microprocessor sitting on idle and doing nothing.
If you can get that Leadtek Extreme MyVIVO, that would be my first choice with BFG and EVGA second.
I will take that into consideration. But i must tell you that from most opinions from this forum and from the advice given by my friends who work at the computer store, BFG seems to be their choice for the best Nvidia Gaming Cards distributor. Im only considering the eVGA because of its very low price tag that almost seems irresistible.
As of yet, i still dont know which way to go. BFG, as written on their web site, "maintains #1 U.S. Retail Market Share For Nvidia-Based 3D Graphics Cards".
Proof of that claim
This is certainly a positive attribute to BFG. Its very unlikely that a company that has the #1 spot in the US would make cheap cards.
On the other hand, eVGA won the PC World top graphics cards award for both the mainstream and the power categories.
Proof of that
This is a nice title but not as significant as being the #1 retailer in th US.
But anyways...I personally dont think that there will be a difference between the two. If i had to base my final decision on one remaining factor, then it would have to be the final advice from my friends who work at the computer store. The entire system they set me up with has been perfect. The only component that failed me was the ATI card, which i didnt get from them. So im simply going to ask them who makes the best card. And whatever their answers are, which is most likely BFG, then that is what i will take.
Although i cant stand the name:
B as in 'be'.
F as in an the 'F grade' or 'fail'.
G as in 'homie'.
Put them together and its a crappy name.
Leadtek is a good name.
XFX is not too bad.
eVGA seems like they tried to pull a quick one by associating their name to VGA so that jo sixpack could get confused and think that eVGA is some kind of standard to video cards or something like that. I dont know.
But a name doesn't tell the whole story. It could be completely insignificant. Although thats not true. The name Windows that Microsoft clung to with grim death was a hugely successful name.
As of yet, i still dont know which way to go. BFG, as written on their web site, "maintains #1 U.S. Retail Market Share For Nvidia-Based 3D Graphics Cards".
Proof of that claim
This is certainly a positive attribute to BFG. Its very unlikely that a company that has the #1 spot in the US would make cheap cards.
On the other hand, eVGA won the PC World top graphics cards award for both the mainstream and the power categories.
Proof of that
This is a nice title but not as significant as being the #1 retailer in th US.
But anyways...I personally dont think that there will be a difference between the two. If i had to base my final decision on one remaining factor, then it would have to be the final advice from my friends who work at the computer store. The entire system they set me up with has been perfect. The only component that failed me was the ATI card, which i didnt get from them. So im simply going to ask them who makes the best card. And whatever their answers are, which is most likely BFG, then that is what i will take.
Although i cant stand the name:
B as in 'be'.
F as in an the 'F grade' or 'fail'.
G as in 'homie'.
Put them together and its a crappy name.
Leadtek is a good name.
XFX is not too bad.
eVGA seems like they tried to pull a quick one by associating their name to VGA so that jo sixpack could get confused and think that eVGA is some kind of standard to video cards or something like that. I dont know.
But a name doesn't tell the whole story. It could be completely insignificant. Although thats not true. The name Windows that Microsoft clung to with grim death was a hugely successful name.
Seriously . . . both eVGA and BFG have lifetime warranties and you really won't go wrong with either one. Just buy the one that is cheaper . . .
The cooler on the extreme MYVIVO is FAR superior to any other 256 GTX, cooler card = less likely to need warranty.
Also, it used to be Leadtek used higher quality components which resulted in noticeably better IQ.
Whether this is still true or not, I do not know.
Also, it used to be Leadtek used higher quality components which resulted in noticeably better IQ.
Whether this is still true or not, I do not know.
Fair enough. I think i got what i needed to know. The rest is pretty much up to me and the fact of the matter is that none of the cards are going to make a difference.
But if any of you are interested in knowing what i am going to choose, then i can only tell you that its a toss between eVGA and BFG.
Thanks for the advice.
But if any of you are interested in knowing what i am going to choose, then i can only tell you that its a toss between eVGA and BFG.
Thanks for the advice.
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