who makes FIC radeon 9700 pro? and what converts a DVI signal to VGA?

mcveigh

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does FIC really make them or does someone else and they just throw their name on it like crucial?

also when you convert a DVI to VGA are you really changing the signal or are you just allowing the analog signal only to pass through?
I think this is correct as I recall a thread on the radeon 8500LE which only supports a digital signal, it does'nt have an analog ramdac for the DVI port?

thanks!
 

Excelsior

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Hmm..I would assume that FIC makes the card themselves but not sure. I know it comes with a DVI to VGA converter. However, i do not know the answer to your other question.
 

warrenpeace

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I recieved my FIC 9700 pro yesterday from NewEgg... I suspect from looking at it that it is manufactured by Sapphire just like the ATI and Crucial cards.

FYI, it is indeed clocked at 325/310 (checked with PowerStrip) and has the fast ram. It is a rev 1.1, not a rev 3 according to what i saw in another post here a few days ago showing extra parts on the ver 3.0 board.

Looking at it, it has the exact same lettering screened on it as the Sapphire a guy at work has, and is in all ways exact INCLUDING the 'ATI' sticker on the gpu fan. The FIC included the Exact same cabled and adapters, packaged exactly the same. The only difference other than the box and manual is that the FIC has drivers and PowerDVD on the same disk, not 2 disks.

Performance and stability running DX9 and catalyst 3 drivers on Win2k have been excellent. I am very satisfied with it.

UT2003 plays butter smooth at 1280x1024 with _everything_ maxed out, same with medal of honor Spearhead and NFS hot persuit 2 (the games that i have mainly played in the 2 days i have had it.

It replaced my Radeon 8500 retail which was running better cooling and copper heat sinks on the ram and was OCed to 305/295RAM (stock was 275/275) via powerstrip. The 8500 was totally stable and showed no artifact at those speeds even after hours of gaming made it so hot you could brew coffee on it.

3dmark2001se score for the 9700pro was 13450 (running 'overall default') Game 4 did 109 fps !!!!! This was my very first run with driver settings at default, not all set to performance. I have only run it once more, and that was after playing UT2003 for over 2 hours straight at 1280x1024 everything maxed out, and then it scored 13272.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5443448

FYI, my OC'ed Radeon 8500 scored 9530 at overall default. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5064053



system :
Win2K sp3
AMD xp2100+
MSI Kt3Ultra2 w/raid
Audigy platinum
1024 megs crucial pc2700
2x 80g 8mb cache HD's in raid 0
 

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Very happy to hear that Warrenpeace. My 9700Pro will get here next week and I wanted some good user feedback. When you mean everything maxed out do you mean AA and anisotropic too? Your system is pretty close to mine, thats why im asking.
 

warrenpeace

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In the card settings i have AA and AF set to "Aplication Prefference" in open GL ans D3D, and then everything set as high as it would go in the game.
 

Odeen

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DVI-VGA:
There isn't anything in the DVI/VGA converter that acts like a DAC, translating DVI output into regular analog video.

Instead, the adapter merely shorts a few of the pins together, which is a signal for the video card "This is no longer a DVI port, it's now VGA". The video card selects a subset of the 24 (I think) DVI pins to act like the 15 pins of regular VGA, and starts treating them as such. The adapter then forwards those 15 pins to a VGA port.

This is also how PS/2/serial, USB/PS/2 and gameport/usb adapters work. The device they convert has to be smart enough to realize when the adapter has been put on it, and to change signaling modes appropriately. Notice how ALL adapters reduce pin count, except for USB/PS2.