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LOL_Wut_Axel

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Completely different styles of racing and not nearly as entertaining imo.

The point is that they're better.

Are you saying watching cars turn left, brake, and accelerate for several laps to then go into pits and repeat the same crap many times is more entertaining? Really?
 
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I thought NASCAR tends to hold the top speed category, no?

not having to make turns makes that pretty easy.

for top speed, in non-drag race or land speed record attempts, indy on ovals is the fastest. nascar is prohibited from as fast because it's a guaranteed catastrophe. f1 is almost as fast as indy, and that's with bumps, hills and sharp turns in both directions. f1 turns and stops harder than anyone, and only top end drag racing accelerates harder.
 

zinfamous

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so moral of the story is, Nascar is for down under redneck white trash wanna bes.....ok cool...just thought id clear that up....

I am proud from where I came from so go play in traffic lol

Fayet-Nam!

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I think NASCAR is boring as sin. It's a bunch of cars that are under so many restrictions as to make them virtually identical, which would be fine as a way to test the skill of the individual drivers, except they're on the absolutle simplest track you could have short of a straight line. F1, Le Mans and GT type racing is way more entertaining, as they have to turn in two entirely different directions at a variety of different angles. I flipped on the TV last weekend and they were running Le Mans racers and GT racers on Road Atlanta at the same time, which I'd never seen before (which goes to show how often I watch racing); I was transfixed. That was a million times better than watching some rednecks turn left for three hours then hold a press conference where they explain the intricacies of how they didn't turn left up to their usual standards of turning left and how next week they'll surely turn left better because next week's track favors their particular style of turning left.

That said, I find racing to be far more enjoyable in the form of video games. I have a hard time watching any form of televised racing for very long, because it is all very, very similar; if you've seen one lap of the race, you can extrapolate it to the remaining 299 and save yourself some time. In a video game, at least you have a feeling of attachment since you're actually in control, even if you're doing a straight simulation of the race that you wouldn't watch on TV because it was too boring.
 

Fritzo

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Here's my NASCAR:

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That's mesmerizing. I've been watching it for 10 minutes now. :eek:
 

boomhower

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I am a big fan of Nascar and F1. Those that say NASCAR is boring and just about running in circles know nothing of the sport. There is constant action throughout the pack and ongoing battles for the lead. Yeah, it's old school tech but the racing is excellent. I watch it for the racing.

F1 on the otherhand is a technological wonder. The highest performing machines in the world running and crazy speeds. Watching how fast those cars can change direction is amazing. That said, up until this year the last couple years have been boring. Passing was rare and most of it was done in the pits. They had to introduce DRS and KERS to get some action. The change of tires to those that wear like shit was an unintended but positive outcome. This year has been fantastic but the last several have been shit for actual racing excitement.

I think the easiest way to sum in up is NASCAR is about the drivers skill in roughly equal equipment and F1 is more about the cars. In F1 you have to have a top end car to be competitive, in NASCAR a driver can take a midpack car and run towards the front. In F1 a midpack car is a midpack car. Vettel isn't going to jump in a Mercedes and win next week.

To answer the OP, I'm a Mark Martin fan. With him going to part time or retirement next year I'll probably go with Carl Edwards. I've always favored Roush Racing drivers due to Martin's long term stay there. Not a Chevy guy and can't go for one, Martin was an exception.
 
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LOL_Wut_Axel

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I am a big fan of Nascar and F1. Those that say NASCAR is boring and just about running in circles know nothing of the sport. There is constant action throughout the pack and ongoing battles for the lead. Yeah, it's old school tech but the racing is excellent. I watch it for the racing.

F1 on the otherhand is a technological wonder. The highest performing machines in the world running and crazy speeds. Watching how fast those cars can change direction is amazing. That said, up until this year the last couple years have been boring. Passing was rare and most of it was done in the pits. They had to introduce DRS and KERS to get some action. The change of tires to those that wear like shit was an unintended but positive outcome. This year has been fantastic but the last several have been shit for actual racing excitement.

I think the easiest way to sum in up is NASCAR is about the drivers skill in roughly equal equipment and F1 is more about the cars. In F1 you have to have a top end car to be competitive, in NASCAR a driver can take a midpack car and run towards the front. In F1 a midpack car is a midpack car. Vettel isn't going to jump in a Mercedes and win next week.

To answer the OP, I'm a Mark Martin fan. With him going to part time or retirement next year I'll probably go with Carl Edwards. I've always favored Roush Racing drivers due to Martin's long term stay there. Not a Chevy guy and can't go for one, Martin was an exception.

You're not actually serious, right? No one is this stupid.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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It's purely my opinion. Care to elaborate on yours?

You enjoy watching cars turn left for dozens of laps in races that barely require any skills in comparison to most other forms of motorsport.

Not much else needs to be said, apart from that your opinion is stupid.
 

boomhower

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You enjoy watching cars turn left for dozens of laps in races that barely require any skills in comparison to all other forms of motorsport.

Not much else needs to be said, apart from that your opinion is stupid.

Yep, barely requires any skill. Go tell that to Jaun Montoya or any of the other very successful open wheel guys that have tried NASCAR only to find it's not a bunch of non-driving rednecks who've struggled for years to be even start to become competitive before giving up all together. I didn't say that NASCAR drivers are the best in the world or anything like it, I said the series is more about testing their skill against each other more than the cars themselves.

Perhaps you should take some time educating yourself before basing your opinions on stereotypes.
 
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Slufa111

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You enjoy watching cars turn left for dozens of laps in races that barely require any skills in comparison to most other forms of motorsport.

Not much else needs to be said, apart from that your opinion is stupid.

First its several hundred laps
Second, they are moving anywhere from 120-200mph.
Third, its not like driving your Smart Car.
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LOL_Wut_Axel

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Yep, barely requires any skill. Go tell that to Jaun Montoya or any of the other very successful open wheel guys that have tried NASCAR only to find it's not a bunch of non-driving rednecks who've struggled for years to be even start to become competitive before giving up all together. I didn't say that NASCAR drivers are the best in the world or anything like it, I said the series is more about testing their skill against each other more than the cars themselves.

Perhaps you should take some time educating yourself before basing your opinions on stereotypes.

LOL, of course. NASCAR requires more skill than Formula One, (A)LMS or WRC, not to mention it's more entertaining. SURE...

Trolls these days...
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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First its several hundred laps
Second, they are moving anywhere from 120-200mph.
Third, its not like driving your Smart Car.
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Fourth, you enjoy animal brutality and even tell people that they're not "real men" for not approving or wanting to see it.

Fifth, you think being born in a country is somehow something "to be proud of".

Your opinion doesn't mean much, if anything.
 

boomhower

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LOL, of course. NASCAR requires more skill than Formula One, (A)LMS or WRC, not to mention it's more entertaining. SURE...

Trolls these days...

You have reading comprehension issues. I have never said, nor ever will, said NASCAR requires more skill. It's a different skill set certainly. By and large F1 and open wheel drivers have a higher level of skill in making a car go fast. Driving inches from other cars lap after lap with a car that handles like shit for three hours takes an entirely different skill set. They are two different disciplines and it's difficult for either to just jump in the other and compete.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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You have reading comprehension issues. I have never said, nor ever will, said NASCAR requires more skill. It's a different skill set certainly. By and large F1 and open wheel drivers have a higher level of skill in making a car go fast. Driving inches from other cars lap after lap with a car that handles like shit for three hours takes an entirely different skill set. They are two different disciplines and it's difficult for either to just jump in the other and compete.

That is, almost none at all in comparison to other motorsports. It's also boring as fuck.

You have stupidity issues.