Who is putting their money where their mouth is?

trulfe

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I think that possibly some countries (like pakistan) are jumping on a bandwagon now that we have so much back to try to gain an edge with us in the future. Although we dont need all their help, they are acting friendly to the US to gain favors in the future.

I know that the British have definetly defended us and said that they would be backing us up and giving us funding for our battle with the terrorists. Also the Chinese have said they would give us $$$ and troops. I have heard that the Russian support our efforts but havent offered any real support or funding, and I havent heard about the Canadians. What countries are putting their money where their mouths are in genuine support?
 

Pennstate

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Chinese have said they would give us $$$ and troops


Holysh!t, where did you hear that?
 

Sugadaddy

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Canada said it was going to help. I saw on the news here that the F18's would be ready if needed.

Of course our army isn't really powerful, but it's better than nothing...
 

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<< Chinese have said they would give us $$$ and troops


Holysh!t, where did you hear that?
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Id like the know where you heard that as well :D
 

Kelvrick

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I'm sure England is putting their money where their mouth is. I have nothing against Canadians, I don't know why things sometimes turn into canada bashing threads. The French though... ughh.... I think India, Isreal, Germany, Japan is in.

Edit: Not sure about my info. I'm speculating on everything but the stuff about England and France. ughh... France...
 

trulfe

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i may be mistaken for the troops from china, but i thought i read it somewhere I will look for it. It says they are supporting our cause and some taiwanese firms are donating funds such as this one http://www.taipeitimes.com/news/2001/09/14/brief/0000011003. although they originally said they would donate $100mil it was later changed

Chinese Foreign Minister Tang Jiaxuan told US Secretary of State Colin Powell: "In the struggle against terrorist violence, the Chinese people stand with the American people."

Edit: I read this


NATO should consult with countries outside Europe before launching action following the terrorist attacks in the United States, China's vice foreign minister Wang Guangya said on Thursday.
Wang later also told reporters that China would not rule out assisting military action if such operations were to be decided under a broader framework, such as the United Nations.
"Any action taken will have its implications for other regions, so it's better that consultation be conducted," said Wang, answering questions at a press conference in Beijing on a separate issue.

"NATO is a regional military organisation within Europe, so if action is taken beyond Europe, it will have implications. So that's why I think consultation is needed," he said.

In a powerful message of solidarity with the US on Wednesday, the 19 NATO members agreed the alliance would support any US response to the attacks under the terms of Article Five of the Washington Treaty.

This states that an armed attack against any ally in Europe or North America should be considered an attack against them all.

Wang said the decision on how to respond to the terrorist act -- already described as the worst in recorded history -- should rather be taken in a multilateral forum like the UN.

"Certainly the international community should take resolute actions against international terrorism, but I think that this action should be taken within the framework of international cooperation," he said.

"Therefore, personally I would prefer these things to be done through some multilateral framework, such as a the United Nations Security Council," he said.

Wang said Chinese assistance in military action taken against those who perpetrated the terrorist attacks would depend on which form these actions would eventually take.

"I think we will study the case when evidence is being presented. Our attitude towards international cooperation against terrorism is positive," he told reporters. "It all depends on the final formula."

Thousands may have died after three hijacked US airliners slammed into the twin towers of New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon military headquarters near Washington D.C.

US authorities fear the death toll could even exceed that caused by the Japanese attack December 7, 1941, at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, which triggered US entry into World War II.


NATO Decides to Back US Retaliation
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) cited a mutual defense clause for the first time in its history Wednesday, paving the way for a possible collective military retaliation against perpetrators of Tuesday's attacks on the United States.

The North Atlantic Council, NATO's decision-making body, " agreed that if it is determined that this attack was directed from abroad against the United States, it shall be regarded as an action covered by Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, which states that an armed attack against one or more of the allies in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all," NATO Secretary-General George Robertson read a statement at a news conference in the alliance's Brussels headquarters.

The clause of NATO's founding treaty commits each of the 19 member countries to take "such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area."

Asked whether this meant NATO would take joint action to support American retaliation, Robertson said: "The country attacked has to make the decisions, it has to be the one that asks for help. ... The U.S. is still assessing the evidence available. They are the ones to make that judgment."

It was the first time this solidarity principle has been invoked in the history of the alliance, which was set up in 1949. This principle dates to the NATO's founding, but has never been invoked.

Originally intended to be applied in case of a Cold War attack, Robertson said the principle "is no less valid" today.





 

Looney

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I havent heard about the Canadians

Of course Canadians are involved... that doesn't even have to be questioned.

And according to the Canadian Globe and Mail, Russia won't get involved aside from intelligence... they're too afraid of terrorists acts, especially since they're already in a war with the Chechyan rebels (absolutely BS if you ask me... it would only help their war if they help ours... Bin Laden aids those rebels).

 

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Sure, its nice other countries support us, but lets be honest. There are only a handful of countries that have a military even comparable to us. Yes, the support is appreciated, but come on..>Do you thinks the Canadians can do something we cant? Or the Pakistanis? Or India? No. The only country who has a military that could truly compliment ours is Britian and perhaps France. No offense to Canada or any other country however! But, fact of the matter is is that the United States Armed Forces are some of the best overall militaries in the world. Now, we just have to FUND THEM!
 

The Dancing Peacock

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regardless of the amount of help they provide, it's "the thought that counts." They are showing their solidarity with us by providing troops, money whatever. Sorry, but the regular French miliitary rolls over "Oh we surrender" :) . Their special forces are kick ass though. The point is that these countries are willing to provide troops, to possibly die in battle next to ours. I'm proud of any country that is willing to do that for us.


late.

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uknemesis

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Personally I think it should just be a UK/US operation as far as military action is concerned. It would just complicate things with too many different countries taking part, here's my reasons why:-

1.The UK and the US have a special relationship to support each other in times of war.
2.The UK has a large fleet in the area within striking distance.
3.The UK has aircraft in bases all around the area reading to go.
4.The UK can start the air attacks as soon as the US does.
5.The SAS are already gathering information in Afghanistan about targets and we all know how much they helped with destroying scuds in the Gulf War.

We need to attack before they can prepare, if we wait for other countries to get ready we'll still be waiting in 6months time. No offence to other countries but in times of war you need countries you can count on, the US know they can count on the UK to be their right until the very end.

If anyone thinks the war is going to be like the Gulf War then think again, this is one war you can't win by airstrikes or the Russians would of done it. If you ask me it could be a long ground war with alot of casualties, there's every chance it could turn into another vietnam and I hope everyone is ready for that!

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Australia offered help. We have only 19 million people so not much support on the money side, though we will be by your side in any action you take. Troops, Hardware, Ships, supplies. Government has already said so.

 

uknemesis

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<< Australia offered help. We have only 19 million people so not much support on the money side, though we will be by your side in any action you take. Troops, Hardware, Ships, supplies. Government has already said so. >>



Also Australia has a secret weapon, you could beam home & away and neighbours into Afghanistan and the terrorists would run out screaming ;)

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The point is that our troops will be by the US in battle. Risking there lives just like your troops...!


Yes

"home & away and neighbours"

Would be a huge threat! LOL


Hey I watch Neighbours...........
 

uknemesis

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<< The point is that our troops will be by the US in battle. Risking there lives just like your troops...!


Yes

"home & away and neighbours"

Would be a huge threat! LOL

Hey I watch Neighbours...........
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Yeah so do I, dione, flick, tess, I'll put my tongue back in :p hehe.

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HOWITIS

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ya its most likely going to be us and the brits again. i don't expect anyone but them to provide any real help. canada would, but don't really have the capability.

uk has been america's best ally for years, which is expected since we are so closely related.
 

jehh

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<< Canada said it was going to help. I saw on the news here that the F18's would be ready if needed.

Of course our army isn't really powerful, but it's better than nothing...
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If nothing else, the name rocks...

"Royal Canadian Air Force"

What a cool name... :)

FYI, my grandfather fought with the RCAF in WW II as a radio operater on bombers...
 

jehh

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<< I have nothing against Canadians, I don't know why things sometimes turn into canada bashing threads.

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We're just jeleous... ;)
 

jehh

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<< Australia offered help. We have only 19 million people so not much support on the money side, though we will be by your side in any action you take. Troops, Hardware, Ships, supplies. Government has already said so. >>



Yea, Aussies Rock! :)

We love you man... :)

Jason
 

trulfe

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anybody heard from Mexico, central and south america or are they too poor to give a fvck.
 

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