I saw your other thread too. It's hard for me to say since I haven't used both. I have the ASUS deluxe model with 3.3ns memory and it seems to overclock fine. OTOH, I don't care for the ASUS VIVO software and I can't get the 3D glasses to work with my system. In retrospect, I probably should have just picked up the basic $99 ti4200 at CompUSA to hold me over nicely until the next gen. is out and saved $100 to spend on a proper tuner card.