Who has the right of way?

[her209]

T-intersection with stop signs for all ingress travel into.

Three cars arrive at the same time.

#1 is traveling straight
#2 is making a right turn
#3 is traveling straight

Since #3 is going straight, both #1 and #2 starts going assuming each has the right of way and end up in an accident.

Who had the right of way between #1 and #2?
Who's at fault for the accident?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

#1 had the right of way between #1 and #2. #2 is at fault.

 

[Newell Steamer]

https://driversed.com/driving-information/signs-signals-and-markings/right-of-way.aspx

At T-intersections, vehicles on the through road have the right-of-way.

EDIT:
I think this answers your question though,..

In some places you will find STOP signs on one side of the intersection but no signal control for the cross traffic as shown in the graphic. In this case, you have to remain STOPPED until all cross traffic is gone. So, in the given situation, the white car can not make a left turn until the blue car gets out of its way.

Same idea though,.. the through road has the right of way. #2 had to chill out until the coast was cleared.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

They are both idiots. If you're not sure let the other person go. You'll likely be right behind them at next light or intersection so time savings by being an impatient jackass are nil.

 

[Ruptga]

False dichotomy, 1 and 2 are equally at fault for not noticing the other and stopping.

I think some places still hold to the "guy on the right has the right of way" rule but, even if that does apply here, guy 2 absolutely should have been paying attention to the entire intersection as he pulled out. If that rule applies #2 still shares blame, it's just more like a 25/75 split instead of 50/50.

 

[her209]

https://driversed.com/driving-information/signs-signals-and-markings/right-of-way.aspx

I believe that is referring to the situation when there is no stop sign whatsoever.

 

[Newell Steamer]

I believe that is referring to the situation when there is no stop sign whatsoever.

My bad,..

In some places you will find STOP signs on one side of the intersection but no signal control for the cross traffic as shown in the graphic. In this case, you have to remain STOPPED until all cross traffic is gone. So, in the given situation, the white car can not make a left turn until the blue car gets out of its way.

Same idea though,.. the through road has the right of way. #2 had to chill out until the coast was cleared.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Cars already on the road in question always have the right of way versus cars turning on to the road.

 

[dank69]

I don't know if there is any official rule for this situation. It may be a case of who was in the intersection first. Assuming everyone made complete stops, I would think whoever's front end hit the other person would get the blame. Cases can be made for both main road has right of way or person to right has right of way but I think both of those are considered etiquette rather than actual laws.

 

[SKORPI0]

 

[T9D]

As mentioned above driving classes and DMV always say car on the right goes first if all come to an intersection at the same time.

In real life I just wave someone on or look to see who seems to be itching to go first. Just feel it out. Depends if they are turning or not too, sometimes it's best to let whoever will clear out fastest. Don't be lame and go though if it's going to cause an accident.

 

[Imp]

I thought it was guy furthest right...

In reality, the most aggressive or one who makes the first move goes. As long as no one guns it, everyone will figure it out.

I try my best to slow to a crawl but not completely stop, then stop after everyone else has stopped, so I'm the last one.

 

[PliotronX]

They are both idiots. If you're not sure let the other person go. You'll likely be right behind them at next light or intersection so time savings by being an impatient jackass are nil.

Agreed, Ive been scared too many times by drivers not aware of the status of their blinkers. Most times I will wave them through. Isnt worth the two seconds and ego boost of me first.

 

[Kaido]

Three cars arrive at the same time.

I have a good strategy for driving in New England: I wave people through. People who live here are always in a hurry to get wherever they're going and always think they arrived first, even if you were fully stopped before they even finished slowing down. Solution? Wave them through so you can get through it faster. I've seen people literally spend over a minute inching up on each other because both think they should be the first to go. Ridiculous.

This doesn't apply to everywhere though...some places I've lived it's the opposite, both people will wave each other through & no one will end up going, lol.

 

[bruceb]

Vehicle #1 and Vehicle #3 would have Right Of Way, as they are both going straight. The vehicle entering the intersection #2 would have to wait.

 

[SlitheryDee]

#1 has the right of way because straight traffic trumps turning traffic, all other things equal. #3 couldn't care less who goes first so long as #2 is turning right.

Also, you save yourself loads of trouble if you just assume the other guy has right of way when you're not sure. If you're wrong or the other person is also unsure they'll hesitate, but usually get moving quickly enough. Even when I know I have right of way, I'm looking at the other person to see if they try to go or not. If they do, I let them. I think so many people put blinders on the instant they realize it's their "turn to go". People are sure that 90% of the rest of the world is a blithering idiot, yet they drive as though everyone is always on the same page. You gotta pick one and go with it.

 

[gorobei]

you guys are misinterpreting the straight traffic right of way rule.

assuming:
true simultaneous stops by all 3 drivers.
a state with yield to person on your right rule.
stop signs for all 3 drivers.

1 must yield to 2 because he is to 1's right. 2 must yield to 3 who is on 2's right.
3 proceeds straight, so 1 must still yield to 2 regardless since he is still on his right.

the rule about turning veh yielding to straight traffic only covers situations when there isnt a veh to the right. so if it was only 3 and 1, and 3 was turning. no one would be to anyone's right so the veh turning must yield.

since there is a clear hierarchy of who is rightmost, the straight traffic rule doesnt apply technically. no one follows this protocol when the 2 veh going straight start off, but you are still supposed to yield to the right. it would be a real cluster if 3 was turning left, as they would all be required to yield to each other.

but yes it's far better to negotiate the situation by waving someone by rather than assuming everyone is fully up to date on the veh code.

 

[Puppies04]

Cars already on the road in question always have the right of way versus cars turning on to the road.

This is how it works in the UK, can't advise on US law.

 

[TridenT]

Well, if you go by the whoever is on the right rule... then 3 goes first. Thus, #3 and #1 both go. So, if #2 goes, they lose.

You could also argue that straight traffic goes first. Thus, #1 and #3 still go. #2 is still to blame for accident.

In all cases, #2 is the looooooser.

 

[IronWing]

In most states, no one has the right of way. The law only specifies who must yield.

 

[sze5003]

I was at one of these intersections before where an accident happened. Here, it's who ever arrives first if it's just two cars, if all 3 or 4 stop signs have someone there, the guy on the right usually has right of way.

In my case it was me and another car on the right. I arrived at the stop sign first and stopped. I looked and saw some lights coming from the right. The right side also has a stop sign. I proceeded to go straight. I was then t boned by a lady in an SUV. When I asked if she was ok, she had her young son in the front seat and cell phone in her lap.

I wasn't at fault but it cost over 5k to repair my car while she just had a dented bumper.

 

[jagec]

Well, if you go by the whoever is on the right rule... then 3 goes first. Thus, #3 and #1 both go. So, if #2 goes, they lose.

You could also argue that straight traffic goes first. Thus, #1 and #3 still go. #2 is still to blame for accident.

In all cases, #2 is the looooooser.

3's right of way does not conflict with anyone else's move, and 2 is right of 1. I say that 2 and 3 go, then 1 goes. But I'd have to see the intersection.

But anyone who gets into an accident at a fully stop-signed intersection, unless the other person blew through the sign, is an idiot. If the other guy is more aggressive than you, stop fretting about right of way and let them go first.

 

[sze5003]

3's right of way does not conflict with anyone else's move, and 2 is right of 1. I say that 2 and 3 go, then 1 goes. But I'd have to see the intersection.

But anyone who gets into an accident at a fully stop-signed intersection, unless the other person blew through the sign, is an idiot. If the other guy is more aggressive than you, stop fretting about right of way and let them go first.

Yea but in my case the lady who wasn't even at her stop sign yet and she still blew through it while I was crossing. Some people are just always in a rush.

 

[jagec]

Yea but in my case the lady who wasn't even at her stop sign yet and she still blew through it while I was crossing. Some people are just always in a rush.

Then the "other person blew through the sign" clause absolves you of idiocy.

 

[sze5003]

Then the "other person blew through the sign" clause absolves you of idiocy.

Lol here they have the "Philly slide" where people just coast up to the stop sign and barely stop, basically roll right through.