Who has figured out when man began?

[Bird222]

I know there are models/equations for population growth. What I am looking for is the reverse of that that takes it back to the first two people on earth. Has anyone seen such a calculation?

 

[sdifox]

see the Bible.

 

[Rakehellion]

You can't look at a model and see where it began. The best we have is fossils.

Check this out http://www.amazon.com/The-Last-Human...the+last+human

 

[Markbnj]

Read Ian Tattersall's "Masters of the Planet."

http://amzn.com/B0065SSA94

 

[sandorski]

There were no "first 2 people".

 

[GagHalfrunt]

You have to define "man". There's no on/off switch where one day there were not men and then the next day there were. We started evolving about 10 million years ago when the line that eventually led to humans split off from the apes. Somewhere along the way we went from being ape to man, most figure about 1.5 million years or so back to homo erectus. But you can certainly draw the demarcation line between ape and human at a different point depending on how human a human needs to be.

 

[KlokWyze]

Is there any definitive work based on current eveidence that shows geographic and chronological history of chimps, ???, neanderthal, cro magnon, homo sapiens, etc?

 

[Thebobo]

I know there are models/equations for population growth. What I am looking for is the reverse of that that takes it back to the first two people on earth. Has anyone seen such a calculation?

Human population viewed in reverse

 

[homebrew2ny]

You can not view it in reverse because there have been many population explosions and implosions throughout history. No working model can account for this as it is still relatively unkown.

 

[IronWing]

I began on my birthday. I bet you did too.

 

[StoutMaster]

Is there any definitive work based on current eveidence that shows geographic and chronological history of chimps, ???, neanderthal, cro magnon, homo sapiens, etc?

Yeah. I saw a show on Discovery or History (something like that) in which scientists took genetic samples from thousands of people and used that data to create a sort of 'map' of human evolution. It was pretty interesting. They were even able to identify periods of human history where 'we' were nearly wiped out for one reason or another. They found evidence that around 50k years ago the human population dwindled to just a few thousand people.

I wish I could find it. It was interesting.

As to the question in the first post, you'll never find 'Adam & Eve' because evolution is an ongoing process. I don't think that anyone (other than faith based creationists) can say that humanity started on a specific date. Like, *boom* today there was humans, yesterday there weren't. For that matter, we're still evolving today.

 

[JEDIYoda]

There were no "first 2 people".

prove it...your turn...

 

[destrekor]

prove it...your turn...

This.



At the beginning, there was only ONE man.
And one rib-woman.

 

[Thebobo]

Interesting article

What We Learned About Human Origins in 2013

Researchers have discovered a 1.42-million-year-old hand fossil that possesses the styloid process, a vital anatomical feature that allows the hand to lock into the wrist bones, giving humans the ability to make and use complex tools.
Credit: University of Missouri

 

[sandorski]

prove it...your turn...

Science.

 

[88keys]

see the Bible.

OFT.

Proof of the bible's accuracy is in the bible.

 

[raildogg]

Science.

But what if another scientific study is published 5 minutes later and disproves the current popular study?

 

[sandorski]

But what if another scientific study is published 5 minutes later and disproves the current popular study?

That's not going to happen on this question. There is just too much supporting evidence.

 

[Thebobo]

Can you take your religious trolling to another thread please

 

[raildogg]

That's not going to happen on this question. There is just too much supporting evidence.

What if another study has "more" evidence? That possibility should be left open.

 

[Puppies04]

OFT.

Proof of the bible's accuracy is in the bible.

Proof of your idiocy is your idiocy.

 

[sandorski]

What if another study has "more" evidence? That possibility should be left open.

Think about what you're suggesting. How is that even possible?

 

[88keys]

But what if another scientific study is published 5 minutes later and disproves the current popular study?

You obviously have no idea how science works or how theories are determined.

 

[raildogg]

Think about what you're suggesting. How is that even possible?

I'm not talking about this theory or that. You claimed science has the answers. I replied that science can contradict itself as well. There is never a total consensus. This is needed for a definitive answer to the origin of man. I doubt science alone can provide this.

 

[feralkid]