Who has an Asus p3b-f and fast cpu (800+)? Need help and suggestions

[Bitek]

I have an an Asus p3-b-f rev 1.04 updated with the 1006 bios. I'm am looking to get a new cpu to replace my cel 366, but am a little unsure of what to get. The bios supposedly supports upto an 850, but I don't see any changes in the voltage options (can't select below 2.0 v) is this supposed to be this way?
I want to get a 800-900 cel, but want to know which whould be the best for oc. Obvioulsy the 900 would be the fastest, but is it as likely to be stable with a 133mhz bus (~1200mhz)? (i also realize there is little difference between these, but want the one most likely to sustain a high bus speed, and have cD0)

Are most people able stable at 133? (bx does offically support it) I've heard of people getting thiers upto 140mhz, but others only to 112
(I know there are lots of variables, but what is the general consensus?)

I've heard unfounded rumors that the beta bios 1008 from the german site can support faster chips (p3 1 ghz,) does anyone conclusively know of this, or have any experience with the 1008b bios?

What is the best slotket, the asus or an msi setup?

I would like any informative info and success (or failure) stories! thanks !

 

[Thijssss]

>I have an an Asus p3-b-f rev 1.04 updated with the 1006 bios. I'm am looking to get a new cpu to replace >my cel 366, but am a little unsure of what to get. The bios supposedly supports upto an 850, but I don't >see any changes in the voltage options (can't select below 2.0 v) is this supposed to be this way?

P3B-F is a slot 1 board so you will need to get a Slot 1 -> Socket 370 converter .. I suggest you get one from ASUS (370-DL) to be sure that it will work. (other brands can give problems).

The 2v.. it's supposed to be that way.. I own a P2B (also BX etc'..) and I can do 1.8v as lowest.. Celerons 800 etc' need lower voltages (my Celeron 800 said 1.75v on the box..). Sure I do run it at 1.8v .. it works.. it only gets a little bit hotter but it sure does run totally stable at 1066 (133FSB, works great on BX boards)
2v is a bit much! You might want to try a newer bios version if there is one, or some way to change it on your mainboard (not in the bios) or try getting a slocket (slot1 -> socket370 converter) that can adjust the voltage for real (not just select, but also change.. making your 2v from your mainboard into 1.7v orso.. for example).

>I want to get a 800-900 cel, but want to know which whould be the best for oc. Obvioulsy the 900 would >be the fastest, but is it as likely to be stable with a 133mhz bus (~1200mhz)? (i also realize there is little >difference between these, but want the one most likely to sustain a high bus speed)

When you get your 800 or 900 (8x or 9x * FSB (Front Side Bus = Bus speed) make sure you get a cD0 stepping one, check .. ugh lost url .. www.intel.com has a page with all the info on the Celeron CPU's.. for example there are 3 difrent Celeron 800's.. make sure you get the one with a cD0 stepping if you want to overclock.
The 900 'can' hit 1200.. but it would need good cooling to be sure it runs good etc'.. be REALLY carefull and check all the information about the cooler you got.. voltages.. max temp.. etc' before you go and try it that high!
Try finding out if other had problems to get a 900 at 1200 stable.. if the had to use powerfull watercooled or something coolers and tricks etc'.. than don't go for it and take a 800 @ 133FSB = 1066 ; with the normal cooler from intel the max temp I had when I overloaded my system BIGTIME was around 38C ... try staying below 45C


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>Are most people able stable at 133? (bx does offically support it) I've heard of people getting thiers upto >140mhz, but others only to 112

Depends on the CPU, 133 works just fine most of the time.. some BX board even support up to 150Mhz but that will require a realy good and cooled CPU and ofcourse expensive RAM .. normal 133Mhz SDRAM won't take 150Mhz.

Btw, at 133+ the PCi bus and AGP go up as well, if you got a card in there that can't handle the higher PCi bus speed for example.. your system will crash .. run unstable etc'.. it's not always the CPU.

>(I know there are lots of variables, but what is the general consensus?)

'consensus' .. no idea what that word means sorry.. hehe

>I've heard unfounded rumors that the beta bios 1008 from the german site can support faster chips (p3 1 >ghz,) does anyone conclusively know of this, or have any experience of the 1008b bios?

It does already ; atleast if the stepping settings are in the bios.. ; but remember that if you can do max of 8.5*FSB that it doesn't mean it can support max 850Mhz on 100FSB ; Set your mainbord for 4*FSB .. 100Mhz FSB = 400Mhz.. put in a Celeron 900 and the CPU will ignore your mainboard and use it's own 9x.. * FSB = 900Mhz
Handy eh?

G'luck