Who else thinks the Academy is a joke?

[TheOasis]

the academy of motion pictures that is.

am i the only person that is outraged by the 11 oscars won by LOTR? i mean cmon. 11 fvcking oscars? and what about titanic, that shouldnt have won any oscars! the academy has been going down hill steadily since 1990 with dances with wolves wining 7 awards. lets not forget the atrosity of the best picture, best actor, best director, best screenplay and best acress going to scilence of the lambs (1991).

this years academy awards hasnt even happened yet and i'm already outraged.

anyone agree with me?

 

[Zysoclaplem]

LOTR: ROTK was a great movie.

 

[TheOasis]

sure it was a good movie, but it was definitly not worth 11 oscars.

 

[dullard]

That is why so many people don't give a sh!t about award shows like that. It is just a few people's opinion about movies (bribed by the way). Why should you care what movies get what awards?

 

[Ilmater]

The academy's methods for choosing winners (sometimes because it's the best performance, sometimes because that person is old, and they deserve and award because they may not have another chance to get one, sometimes because if Halle Berry is going to be given the Oscar just because a black woman hasn't won best actress yet they might as well give Denzel the award for best actor even if it IS the worst performance of his career) hasn't ever changed. It's just not always about the best actor.

 

[edro]

If all the other movies that year sucked... and there is one mediocre movie, of course it's gonna get all the awards.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: TheOasis
sure it was a good movie, but it was definitly not worth 11 oscars.

The Academy was really awarding them for the entire trilogy, not just ROTK.


Though after SPR lost to Shakespeare in Love for best picture I lost all respect for the Academy.

 

[TheOasis]

mystic river sucked? lost in translation sucked? LOTR was better than both of those movies? the movie that has a horrible pace and is bloated with CGI?

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: TheOasis
sure it was a good movie, but it was definitly not worth 11 oscars.

Sure it was. Look at the Oscars it won: Picture, Director, Score, Song, Effects, Sound... none of them were acting credits, and it deserved the ones it won.

 

[CptObvious]

They seem to be biased towards period pieces and biopics, and actors who play flashy dramatic roles rather than subtle ones. Other than that, I think each year's Oscar selection is generally pretty good (as opposed to the Grammys...ug).

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: TheOasis
mystic river sucked? lost in translation sucked? LOTR was better then both of those movies? the movie that has a horrible pace and is bloated with CGI?

Bloated with CGI? How else do you tell a FANTASY story that contains gigantic spiders, actors in an active volcano, and skeletons flying around on dragons. I only object when there are better ways to do things, and in this case, there aren't. He used as much real-life stuff as he could have.

Plus, as K1052 said, they were giving the award for the ENTIRE trilogy, as most expected. It's not the first time they've done that, it's not the last, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

 

[TheOasis]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: TheOasis
sure it was a good movie, but it was definitly not worth 11 oscars.

Sure it was. Look at the Oscars it won: Picture, Director, Score, Song, Effects, Sound... none of them were acting credits, and it deserved the ones it won.

song? i was never aware there was such a catagory.
and i do think that the LOTR trilogy (because as someone said they based this on tthe trilogy not just RTOK) deserved best sound, effects, and wardrobe. but thats it. mystic river had a far better score, and director, the acting was suberb (which is why both Penn and Robbins won best actor), and over all, mystic river was a better film then all three of the LOTR movies.

and we arent just talking last year, what about scilence of the lambs, forest gump, titanic, or shakespear in love.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: CptObvious
They seem to be biased towards period pieces and biopics, and actors who play flashy dramatic roles rather than subtle ones. Other than that, I think each year's Oscar selection is generally pretty good (as opposed to the Grammys...ug).

Exxxxxactly. If you compare the Oscars to other award shows, it's INCREDIBLE. The other award shows are TERRIBLE.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: TheOasis
the academy of motion pictures that is.

am i the only person that is outraged by the 11 oscars won by LOTR? i mean cmon. 11 fvcking oscars? and what about titanic, that shouldnt have won any oscars! the academy has been going down hill steadily since 1990 with dances with wolves wining 7 awards. lets not forget the atrosity of the best picture, best actor, best director, best screenplay and best acress going to scilence of the lambs (1991).

The Oscars are usually wierd, but what do you have against Dances with Wolves and Silence of the Lambs?

 

[TheOasis]

the grammys are bad, but look at the music that the grammys even look at, its all top40 junk. the fact that the academy recognizes good movies, but then turns them down for not so good movies, is worse.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: TheOasis
song? i was never aware there was such a catagory.

OK people, this is our cue to leave this thread. The fvcking OP doesn't even know there was such a category as "Best Song."

FYI OP, for YEARS they've played the songs that are nominated for that award during the show, and as far as I know, they ALWAYS have. What did you think they were playing those songs for? Just filling time?

 

[anxi80]

1981: raging bull
1989: the last temptation of christ
1991: goodfellas
2003: gangs of new york

and i have a feeling that blondie may be taking the 'best director' honors away from mr. scorsese this year

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: TheOasis
song? i was never aware there was such a catagory.

OK people, this is our cue to leave this thread. The fvcking OP doesn't even know there was such a category as "Best Song."

:shocked:

how does the op think eminem got an academy award?! for his acting chops? his performance in '8 mile' that was so endearing that it could make a tear trickle down a grown man's cheek?

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: anxi80
1981: raging bull
1989: the last temptation of christ
1991: goodfellas
2003: gangs of new york

and i have a feeling that blondie may be taking the 'best director' honors away from mr. scorsese this year

That one... that one really gets me. It's the only one that I don't think I'll ever get over. In 10 years, nobody will even mention Chicago unless they immediately follow that comment by "shouldn't have won over GoNY for Best Picture in 2003." That's just an atrocity. Not only an incredible film, but Daniel Day Lewis was so incredible and was so closely associated witht hat movie, that to pass up the movie was like passing up DDL for the cast of Chicago, which obviously is an atrocity.

God, just thinking about that makes me want to just walk out of work an hour early just to go home and watch that movie.

"You see this fvcking knife?! I'm going to teach you to speak English with this fvcking knife!"

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: anxi80
1981: raging bull
1989: the last temptation of christ
1991: goodfellas
2003: gangs of new york

and i have a feeling that blondie may be taking the 'best director' honors away from mr. scorsese this year

That one... that one really gets me. It's the only one that I don't think I'll ever get over. In 10 years, nobody will even mention Chicago unless they immediately follow that comment by "shouldn't have won over GoNY for Best Picture in 2003." That's just an atrocity. Not only an incredible film, but Daniel Day Lewis was so incredible and was so closely associated witht hat movie, that to pass up the movie was like passing up DDL for the cast of Chicago, which obviously is an atrocity.
God, just thinking about that makes me want to just walk out of work an hour early just to go home and watch that movie.

"You see this fvcking knife?! I'm going to teach you to speak English with this fvcking knife!"

GoNY is probably Scorsese's worst movie. That doesn't mean it's a bad movie (I enjoyed it and bought the DVD), but when someone sets such high standards for themelves they are held to higher standards. And yeah, Chicago sucked. They just wanted to give the award to a musical.

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
GoNY is probably Scorsese's worst movie. That doesn't mean it's a bad movie (I enjoyed it and bought the DVD), but when someone sets such high standards for themelves they are held to higher standards. And yeah, Chicago sucked. They just wanted to give the award to a musical.

out of his list of directed movies, i agree it isnt as enjoyable as his past outings. still, i think it was a well-directed movie and beautifully captures the era. i own the dvd, but to be honest with you, it doesnt get the repeat viewing results like you would see me do with goodfellas or taxi driver.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: CptObvious
They seem to be biased towards period pieces and biopics, and actors who play flashy dramatic roles rather than subtle ones. Other than that, I think each year's Oscar selection is generally pretty good (as opposed to the Grammys...ug).

Exxxxxactly. If you compare the Oscars to other award shows, it's INCREDIBLE. The other award shows are TERRIBLE.

That's what I'm saying. At least the Oscars feature some truly good work and not mass-marketed horseshit like the Grammys. I can't think of any awards show that means less to me than the Grammys.

I wouldn't say the Oscars always go to the best work possible, but at least the contenders for the Oscar usually are worthy of some recognition.