Who else thinks that the super skyscraper that they are building in Dubai will collapse once it's finished?

[zinfamous]

the tallest buildings rankings are BS anyway. Sears Tower should still be #2 (behind Taipei 101 only). They count the spires on top of Petronas as part of the building, which finish higher than the ceiling of the Sears Tower. The Sears ceiling (actual non-ornamental usable space) is higher than the ceiling(s) of Petronas. The antennas on Sears are also higher than the spires on Petronas. But since the spires are considered part of Petronas' structure, albiet ornamental hogwash, and Sears' antennas are separate entities...Sears gets the shaft

Same thing with Freedom Tower. Isn't it supposed to be ~60% spire? No matter...once Caltrava's spire gets built, Chicago will be on top again (although, it may sitll be smaller than the Burj-not sure)

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
the tallest buildings rankings are BS anyway. Sears Tower should still be #2 (behind Taipei 101 only). They count the spires on top of Petronas as part of the building, which finish higher than the ceiling of the Sears Tower. The Sears ceiling (actual non-ornamental usable space) is higher than the ceiling(s) of Petronas. The antennas on Sears are also higher than the spires on Petronas. But since the spires are considered part of Petronas' structure, albiet ornamental hogwash, and Sears' antennas are separate entities...Sears gets the shaft

Same thing with Freedom Tower. Isn't it supposed to be ~60% spire? No matter...once Caltrava's spire gets built, Chicago will be on top again (although, it may sitll be smaller than the Burj-not sure)

They should build a spire on top of the Sears Tower... It's kind of an ugly building anyway. While they're at it, maybe they should rename it to KMart Holdings Plaza

 

[Adul]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
It won't collapse. Making a building 3000 feet isn't really all that much different from making one 1000 feet. It's just a matter of engineering strong enough. If you have the money you can make one a mile high without it collapsing.

O RLY?

Frank Lloyd Wright designed a mile high building. I believe it also went 1/3 of a mile into the ground for the foundation. It was pretty much a self contained city

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Adul

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
It won't collapse. Making a building 3000 feet isn't really all that much different from making one 1000 feet. It's just a matter of engineering strong enough. If you have the money you can make one a mile high without it collapsing.

O RLY?

Frank Lloyd Wright designed a mile high building. I believe it also went 1/3 of a mile into the ground for the foundation. It was pretty much a self contained city

Yeah, it also had plans for atomic powered elevators as well... as if a mile high building wasn't good enough of a terrorist target on it's own

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey
Why is the CN Tower practically never on these tallest-buildings lists?

Because it's not classified as a building? Free Standing Structure, yes, building, no.


Dubai is a much easier place to build compared to Taipei. At least you don't have to worry about earthquakes.

Man, the environmental system on these things and the modeling of it has got to be a giant headache.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob

Originally posted by: zinfamous
the tallest buildings rankings are BS anyway. Sears Tower should still be #2 (behind Taipei 101 only). They count the spires on top of Petronas as part of the building, which finish higher than the ceiling of the Sears Tower. The Sears ceiling (actual non-ornamental usable space) is higher than the ceiling(s) of Petronas. The antennas on Sears are also higher than the spires on Petronas. But since the spires are considered part of Petronas' structure, albiet ornamental hogwash, and Sears' antennas are separate entities...Sears gets the shaft

Same thing with Freedom Tower. Isn't it supposed to be ~60% spire? No matter...once Caltrava's spire gets built, Chicago will be on top again (although, it may sitll be smaller than the Burj-not sure)

They should build a spire on top of the Sears Tower... It's kind of an ugly building anyway. While they're at it, maybe they should rename it to KMart Holdings Plaza

True...I believe Sears moved out of the building several years ago anyway.....

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Citrix
220 stories??? im scared that would throw off the rotation of Earth.

Why?

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: theGlove
isnt dubai like a muslim place?

Yes, and like all muslim structures, it will be built with nothing but sand and dirty bombs.

 

[DVad3r]

Im pretty sure it will have 40 + elevators so no one will be taking the stairs. Elevators will be super fast just like the CN Tower, or faster. It won't collapse, but if it does then I hope they catch it on video.

 

[dennilfloss]

Originally posted by: Lounatik
Imagine you are a sheikh and spent 50 mill on a 250th floor penthouse and now you are going to have some damn kids jumping up and down on their floor all night.

Or have Michael Jackson as your upstairs neighbour. :laugh:

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: cjchaps
http://static.flickr.com/4/8166459_87d7d47ae8.jpg

Double tallness not found?

And to think, that still costs $100 million less than the new Yankee Stadium.

cheap arab labour for the win

Most of the labor is probably heavily abused & mistreated immigrant labor from Asia.

Thats pretty much almost everywhere in asia. Who do you think works labor jobs in Singapore, Malaysia, China.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
the tallest buildings rankings are BS anyway. Sears Tower should still be #2 (behind Taipei 101 only). They count the spires on top of Petronas as part of the building, which finish higher than the ceiling of the Sears Tower. The Sears ceiling (actual non-ornamental usable space) is higher than the ceiling(s) of Petronas. The antennas on Sears are also higher than the spires on Petronas. But since the spires are considered part of Petronas' structure, albiet ornamental hogwash, and Sears' antennas are separate entities...Sears gets the shaft

Same thing with Freedom Tower. Isn't it supposed to be ~60% spire? No matter...once Caltrava's spire gets built, Chicago will be on top again (although, it may sitll be smaller than the Burj-not sure)

The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat has four criteria for the tallest building in the world:
- Architectural top (spires count, antennas do not) - Taipei 101
- Highest occupied floor - Taipei 101
- Roof height - Taipei 101
- Pinnacle height (including antennas and anything else they want to stick out the top of the building) - Sears Tower

Unrelated to your post, but the CN Tower is not considered a building because its primary purpose is as a communication tower and it only has a few floors.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: George P Burdell
I'm sure there'll be a good number of people who'll live, work and eat there and probably not leave the building for days.

That would be awesome and suck at the same time.

That was the original concept for the John Hancock building in Chicago.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Minjin
I have tremendous respect for Dubai engineers and the vision of the people in control there.

They've built:

The Palm Islands
The World Islands
The Burj-Al-Arab

And plenty more.

These are the good guys, folks. I've been there and its a nice place. :thumbsup:

dubai rocks, i will holiday there one day. theyre crazy!

they have that rally driver dude with all the cool cars... CLK GTR with a one off tuned AMG engine (he asked for more power...AMG gave him it!), modified F40, jag Xj220....etc the dudes got all the best cars evar!

they are also planning an F1 ciruit.... which is perfect, F1 is a rich sport and deserves a rich race!

i think some arab family owns 5% of ferrari and actually have their names on the F1 cars this year, also they plan to build a ferrari world! lol! amazing.

you gotta hand it too them, they have great vision and the money to do it.

The sad part is it was our moeny that we gave them for oil. At least Dubai understands that the oil will run out and they are building a new source of revenue in tourism.

I dunno about you, but I find that oil pretty useful.

Anyways, that building looks pretty killer. Im guessing they need to seal and pressurize the top floors?

 

[fLum0x]

after looking at the tallest on wikipedia and going all the way back to the red pyramid, i dont think this really matters

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: Sqube
All these posts and nobody mentioned the Tower of Babel yet?

Pretty amazing.

 

[Bumrush99]

Can you imagine a brand new Airbus A380 filled with fuel for a flight to NYC from Dubai hitting that building!! Anything that big would surely be a huge target

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: TecHNooB

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
What distance is required to reach terminal velocity? Maybe they could let the elevators freefall for a minute to save on energy and time.

And then the brakes fail. OMG BEST RIDE EVER! Until you hit the bottom anyway.

Na, I imagine the elevator shafts being air tight, so as they near the bottom, the pressure builds up and gradually slows the elevator until the brakes can safely engage at which time a vent is opened to release pressure from the shaft and normal progress is resumed.

I'm telling you, the cost savings would add up and people would get their daily dose of amusement park fun several times a day!!!

well they wouldnt just have one big elevator shaft would they

they'd probably have a few smaller shafts, means you gotta get out and get another lift, much like the WTC buildings.

look at the shape as well, http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/

its got loads of different levels so, multile shafts stacked up is probably what they'd do, providing they are going with traditional cable operated lifts. a single lift that went 216 floors lol, the steel cables would weigh a freaking ton!

Actually, a single lift that went 216 floors, with cables that only weighed "a freaking ton" would be an absolute miracle of strength to weight ratio.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: BD2003
Anyways, that building looks pretty killer. Im guessing they need to seal and pressurize the top floors?

lol
This isn't "top of Mt. Everest" high. But, they might have to add an extra egg, one extra tablespoon of flour per cup in the recipe, and cut the baking soda by about 25% - if they're baking a cake on the top 3 or 4 floors.

 

[Babbles]

Sometimes I get vertigo in really high buildings; as cool as I think this building is going to be I don't think I could ever bring myself to go that high and look out the window . . . as if I could ever afford the chance to do so.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: Random Variable
Who else thinks that the super skyscraper that they are building in Dubai will collapse once it's finished?

Poll?

And to answer your question; no!

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: RelaxTheMind
200 floors of call centers... at least I wont be on hold long to get tech support.

:laugh:

 

[Chaotic42]

Artist's rendering of it

 

[Pwnbroker]

so they're going to build this thing, blow it up and blame the US for it...

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Artist's rendering of it

Awesome! When you realize those "small" buildings around it arent small at all