Who else is going to flip in GA?

Which one will flip on Trump and plead guilty for a deal?

  • Rudy Giuliani

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • John Eastman

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Mark Meadows

    Votes: 6 75.0%
  • Jeffery Clark - Justice Dept. official

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Ray Smith - GA based lawyer

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • Robert Cheeley - GA based lawyer

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Michael Roman - White House aide

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • David Shafer - Chair of GA GOP - fake elector

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Shawn Still - fake elector - Current GA Senator

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • Stephen Cliffgard Lee - pastor that theatened Ruby Freeman at her home

    Votes: 4 50.0%

  • Total voters
    8

MtnMan

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There are 18 co-defendants along with the orange menace in GA. Four have already seen the fact they are going to prison if they don't get a plea deal. Every damn one of them know they are guilty as hell.

Four have already figured this out, and plead guilty. They are Sidney Powell, Kenneth Chesebro, Jenna Ellis, and Scott Hall.

That leaves 14 more, plus the orange menace.
Who will make a plea deal going forward?
(Poll only allows 10 choices, continued next message)
 
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MtnMan

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Well here are the last 4, can't post as a poll.

  • Harrison Floyd - involved in threat to Freeman
  • Trevian Kutti - pressured Freeman to falsely confess to election fraud.
  • Cathy Latham - Chair Coffee County GOP - fake elector
  • Misty Hampton - allowed access to Coffee County voting machines
 

hal2kilo

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Well here are the last 4, can't post as a poll.

  • Harrison Floyd - involved in threat to Freeman
  • Trevian Kutti - pressured Freeman to falsely confess to election fraud.
  • Cathy Latham - Chair Coffee County GOP - fake elector
  • Misty Hampton - allowed access to Coffee County voting machines
I can see the top 2 would have information on who directed them to do what they did. I don't see how the bottom 2 have anything more than what Powell has, as she was probably the main contact point.
 

Stokely

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Unless they think they can get off scot free, they are likely kicking themselves. They might still be able to get a deal but the trend is not good--the last couple still got a felony, and from my reading (I don't know much about RICO trials) the deals get worse as they go.
 
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woolfe9998

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The ones flipping are getting no jail time, but that won't last. Once they have enough to convict all the non-flippers, the opportunity will close. And I'm guessing they're getting close. So they'd better hurry. Meadows already flipped in both the federal cases, so he's probably already flipped in GA. I think we'll see 1 or 2 more, then they stop offering deals. If Giuliani doesn't flip, he's an idiot, but then, he's an idiot, so...
 

trenchfoot

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Well whomever is left are certainly calculating their revised risk and damage assessments while waiting for the next indicted gang member to pull the plug and start the guessing game all over again. If things go the way they've gone in similar domino flops, the next egg to crack will be the perp who got their panties pulled around their knees from the others being turned and are about to have their skirts lifted over their heads.

Don't know enough to lay odds but it sure is fun watching those Trump cult acolytes stab each other in their necks and backs trying to avoid getting skinned.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Maybe they can get Trump to flip on himself…with his bigly brain, I’m sure they can convince him to turn on himself…

-NGL that would be some fucking 5D chess right there.

"Yeah I'm guilty of everything let me read an apology letter and do some community service for attempting to end the American Republic"
 

BoomerD

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Well whomever is left are certainly calculating their revised risk and damage assessments while waiting for the next indicted gang member to pull the plug and start the guessing game all over again. If things go the way they've gone in similar domino flops, the next egg to crack will be the perp who got their panties pulled around their knees from the others being turned and are about to have their skirts lifted over their heads.

Don't know enough to lay odds but it sure is fun watching those Trump cult acolytes stab each other in their necks and backs trying to avoid getting skinned.
I wonder what the Las Vegas oddsmakers are saying?
 

sactoking

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Well, legit Las Vegas books are legally prohibited from taking action on politics and criminal activity, so I'd venture to say nothing.
 

woolfe9998

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He is an idiot but he was a lawyer, he must know how this plays out!

He should very well know how RICO prosecutions work. He prosecuted the most famous RICO case ever, the mob commission trial back in the 1980's. He convicted the bosses of 3 of the 5 NY mafia families, by getting people lower on the totem pole to flip. But he's clearly not the Rudy he was back then.
 
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Bitek

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It may be more useful at this point to consider who GA wouldn't be pursuing a plea deal from.

Any low level goon who isn't a complete fking idiot should be running to the DAs to get a deal before the additive value of their testimony is zero. Who, of your list, is the biggest idiot? I don't know how to judge between them.

What I do know, is that the DA should be targeting Trump, Ghouliani and probably Eastman. No pleas for them.

Then, no pleas for the slow idiots who's ethics were too compromised to see the peril of their situation and swiftly move to correct.
 

pete6032

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I think we'll see 1 or 2 more, then they stop offering deals. If Giuliani doesn't flip, he's an idiot, but then, he's an idiot, so...
Don't all of them have to go before a grand jury if they go to trial? They are all guilty AF but if I was one of them I'd consider gambling on a jury trial. Chances are good that at least 1/12 jurors is a QAnon nut or ultra conservative who would never vote to convict.
 

eelw

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Don't all of them have to go before a grand jury if they go to trial? They are all guilty AF but if I was one of them I'd consider gambling on a jury trial. Chances are good that at least 1/12 jurors is a QAnon nut or ultra conservative who would never vote to convict.
Big deal, hung jury. Make them waste more money on lawyer fees for new trial. Won’t be ever a not guilty verdict.
 

Moonbeam

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Maybe they can get Trump to flip on himself…with his bigly brain, I’m sure they can convince him to turn on himself…
I think he'll flip on the ones who lied to him about his willing the election, which will probably be all of them because Trump, himself, has to be clearly innocent, Everybody knows that. He was our greatest President ever. If in doubt, ask him.
 

HomerJS

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They need to arrest that crazy looking black woman. She looks like the type to stab someone
 

Stokely

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Might be one available if Powell gets hers rescinded. As she probably should, unless they simply take her recorded testimony and tell her tough titties. She bleated about being "extorted" into making her guilty plea, and went right back to talking about how the election was stolen. Truly not the sharpest knife in the drawer...
 
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DaaQ

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They need to arrest that crazy looking black woman. She looks like the type to stab someone
More like possessed.
But the Broke ones will flip first, the ones that can't afford lawyers. Then the ones that finally realize Trump will not pay anything for them.
 

BoomerD

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I'm beginning to suspect that all these plea deals/flippers are part of a strategy that will do more damage to the state's case than help it. When the flippers' statements break down...or are retracted, it will really throw a monkey wrench into the prosecution's case. (sure, the ones who retract their statements will then be charged with their original bevy of charges...and/or more...but that's different than the case against Trump.

Gawd I hope I'm wrong.