Who else hates the phrase "Turkey Day"?

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Lifer
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For some reason, I find it really aggravating. To me, it hints at a change in meaning on the whole day, from a day of thanks (to whomever) into a day of self-indulgent stuffing of oneself. I think that traditionally Thanksgiving has been a day of pause, reflection and hopefully of gratitute for what one has, especially compared to the state of the rest of the world, and now it seems the start of the "me-me-me" season.
 

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Originally posted by: leftyman
i call it "the day the indians realized they were fvcked"

So is the day Indian gaming was legalized, "the day the Indians got unfvcked"? Don't troll in my thread.
 

leftyman

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: leftyman
i call it "the day the indians realized they were fvcked"

So is the day Indian gaming was legalized, "the day the Indians got unfvcked"? Don't troll in my thread.

well everything they had was taken from them so...
 

GeneValgene

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Originally posted by: HotChic
For some reason, I find it really aggravating. To me, it hints at a change in meaning on the whole day, from a day of thanks (to whomever) into a day of self-indulgent stuffing of oneself. I think that traditionally Thanksgiving has been a day of pause, reflection and hopefully of gratitute for what one has, especially compared to the state of the rest of the world, and now it seems the start of the "me-me-me" season.

yea...i guess now that i think about it, i'd have to agree
 

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Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: leftyman
i call it "the day the indians realized they were fvcked"

So is the day Indian gaming was legalized, "the day the Indians got unfvcked"? Don't troll in my thread.

well everything they had was taken from them so...

Not by the Puritains they didn't. I'd say the 1492 landing is more appropriate, or the slaughter by the conquistadores. You're forgetting that the "pilgrims" were a ragtag bunch of religious/political exiles that practically starved to death the first year, and probably would have if the Native Americans hadn't pitched in to help.
 

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Originally posted by: HotChic
For some reason, I find it really aggravating. To me, it hints at a change in meaning on the whole day, from a day of thanks (to whomever) into a day of self-indulgent stuffing of oneself. I think that traditionally Thanksgiving has been a day of pause, reflection and hopefully of gratitute for what one has, especially compared to the state of the rest of the world, and now it seems the start of the "me-me-me" season.

way to overanalyze a playful nickname. :roll:
 

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: HotChic
For some reason, I find it really aggravating. To me, it hints at a change in meaning on the whole day, from a day of thanks (to whomever) into a day of self-indulgent stuffing of oneself. I think that traditionally Thanksgiving has been a day of pause, reflection and hopefully of gratitute for what one has, especially compared to the state of the rest of the world, and now it seems the start of the "me-me-me" season.

way to overanalyze a playful nickname. :roll:

Names reflect subtle changes in attitude. Do you think the traditions of the day have curved more towards the self-indulgent or do you think they have the same humbling tone that they did in times past?
 

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Originally posted by: GeneValgene
Originally posted by: HotChic
For some reason, I find it really aggravating. To me, it hints at a change in meaning on the whole day, from a day of thanks (to whomever) into a day of self-indulgent stuffing of oneself. I think that traditionally Thanksgiving has been a day of pause, reflection and hopefully of gratitute for what one has, especially compared to the state of the rest of the world, and now it seems the start of the "me-me-me" season.

yea...i guess now that i think about it, i'd have to agree

It never bothered me till you posted this and I thought about it, thanks OP... :roll: Now everytime one of my friends or relatives uses that phrase this holiday weekend, I will die a little more inside ;)
 

leftyman

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: leftyman
i call it "the day the indians realized they were fvcked"

So is the day Indian gaming was legalized, "the day the Indians got unfvcked"? Don't troll in my thread.

well everything they had was taken from them so...

Not by the Puritains they didn't. I'd say the 1492 landing is more appropriate, or the slaughter by the conquistadores. You're forgetting that the "pilgrims" were a ragtag bunch of religious/political exiles that practically starved to death the first year, and probably would have if the Native Americans hadn't pitched in to help.


1492 wasnt on the mainland, although i understand your reasoning..however dont forget disease caused many more deaths than the conquistadores
 

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I must've said turkey day a few dozen times today.

"Have a good turkey day!!!"

"Can't wait 'till turkey day!"

"Enjoy your turkey day!"
 

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i guess i just like to eat the food
it is nice to have a day off work and when possible, spend it with extended family
i don't think i really care what it is called
 

natto fire

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: HotChic
For some reason, I find it really aggravating. To me, it hints at a change in meaning on the whole day, from a day of thanks (to whomever) into a day of self-indulgent stuffing of oneself. I think that traditionally Thanksgiving has been a day of pause, reflection and hopefully of gratitute for what one has, especially compared to the state of the rest of the world, and now it seems the start of the "me-me-me" season.

way to overanalyze a playful nickname. :roll:

Names reflect subtle changes in attitude. Do you think the traditions of the day have curved more towards the self-indulgent or do you think they have the same humbling tone that they did in times past?

I think you only need to look at the obesity problem in USA to get the answer to that one. I agree with you 100% by the way, but I'm not a big holiday person, I am thankful for many things every day. I think another attitude problem that seems to be getting out of control is scapegoatism, everything is always someone elses fault.
 

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Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: leftyman
i call it "the day the indians realized they were fvcked"

So is the day Indian gaming was legalized, "the day the Indians got unfvcked"? Don't troll in my thread.

well everything they had was taken from them so...

Not by the Puritains they didn't. I'd say the 1492 landing is more appropriate, or the slaughter by the conquistadores. You're forgetting that the "pilgrims" were a ragtag bunch of religious/political exiles that practically starved to death the first year, and probably would have if the Native Americans hadn't pitched in to help.


1492 wasnt on the mainland, although i understand your reasoning..however dont forget disease caused many more deaths than the conquistadores

True, and disease did do the most damage population-wise. Sad that so much of the cultures were lost, sad that so many people did die. I don't know if there's any reason to be indignant about it though; cultures naturally cross over the course of time, disease affects various populations around the globe, change is constant.

I've always considered it a little patronizing when the outside world tries to "protect" a small, more archaic culture from the world's influence. Where would the protectors' cultures be if somebody had prevented them a chance to learn, grow and change? The effects of Europeans on Native Americans were devestating, both intentionally and unintentionally, but it seems to me that only the intentional devestation is deserving of serious criticism.
 
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Originally posted by: HotChic
For some reason, I find it really aggravating. To me, it hints at a change in meaning on the whole day, from a day of thanks (to whomever) into a day of self-indulgent stuffing of oneself. I think that traditionally Thanksgiving has been a day of pause, reflection and hopefully of gratitute for what one has, especially compared to the state of the rest of the world, and now it seems the start of the "me-me-me" season.

The day is all about food anyway so what's the big deal.
 
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Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: leftyman
i call it "the day the indians realized they were fvcked"

So is the day Indian gaming was legalized, "the day the Indians got unfvcked"? Don't troll in my thread.

well everything they had was taken from them so...

Not by the Puritains they didn't. I'd say the 1492 landing is more appropriate, or the slaughter by the conquistadores. You're forgetting that the "pilgrims" were a ragtag bunch of religious/political exiles that practically starved to death the first year, and probably would have if the Native Americans hadn't pitched in to help.

The problem with that reasoning is that 'thanksgiving' was not created by the people who landed in 1492.
The indians were stupid enough to help out and they got fscked.
 

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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: HotChic
For some reason, I find it really aggravating. To me, it hints at a change in meaning on the whole day, from a day of thanks (to whomever) into a day of self-indulgent stuffing of oneself. I think that traditionally Thanksgiving has been a day of pause, reflection and hopefully of gratitute for what one has, especially compared to the state of the rest of the world, and now it seems the start of the "me-me-me" season.

The day is all about food anyway so what's the big deal.

I guess my real complaint is that the day really is all about food now, and the name alteration just rubs that in. Why should it be all about food? Westerners have so much more than all the rest of the world - is it way too much to ask that we take a few hours, if that, to be grateful or to reflect on how little struggle we face compared to the majority of the world?