Who else hates links to 'about.com' in google search results?

neonerd

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I just tried that AT Streamline script. I like it for the msot part...but any way to have it so I can see the left bar (with the forum categories and buddy list)?
 

AFB

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Originally posted by: neonerd
I just tried that AT Streamline script. I like it for the msot part...but any way to have it so I can see the left bar (with the forum categories and buddy list)?

Actually, what would be nicer is a fold out button so you can open and close it.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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I've found About.com to be the best resource for information about the military. Granted, a lot of their information sucks and is impossible to browse to, but some areas are very good.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: neonerd
I just tried that AT Streamline script. I like it for the msot part...but any way to have it so I can see the left bar (with the forum categories and buddy list)?

When you open up the script in Firefox, instead of installing it, save it to your hard drive. Open up the script from your hard drive and change the line that says

var removeSideBar = true;

to

var removeSideBar = false;

Save it, open the modified version in firefox, and install as usual, you'll have the sidebar then.
 

neonerd

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: neonerd
I just tried that AT Streamline script. I like it for the msot part...but any way to have it so I can see the left bar (with the forum categories and buddy list)?

When you open up the script in Firefox, instead of installing it, save it to your hard drive. Open up the script from your hard drive and change the line that says

var removeSideBar = true;

to

var removeSideBar = false;

Save it, open the modified version in firefox, and install as usual, you'll have the sidebar then.

awesome, thanks :)
 

notfred

Lifer
Feb 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: neonerd
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: neonerd
I just tried that AT Streamline script. I like it for the msot part...but any way to have it so I can see the left bar (with the forum categories and buddy list)?

When you open up the script in Firefox, instead of installing it, save it to your hard drive. Open up the script from your hard drive and change the line that says

var removeSideBar = true;

to

var removeSideBar = false;

Save it, open the modified version in firefox, and install as usual, you'll have the sidebar then.

awesome, thanks :)

:)
 

Descartes

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Cool man.

BTW, you totally miss the idea behind RSS :D Aggregate != aggregate all items into a single source (although many readers can do that, including SharpReader); rather, it aggregates multiple sources and the published items into a single reader and you can freely navigate between them. The value of having a uniform XML vocabulary through which you can publish content items is immensely useful. Also, it's a simple matter if you wish to create a single feed from all of your feeds...
 

Mrvile

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I don't use Google so psh, dun need it. Yahoo all the way (doesn't Yahoo use the Google engine though? Bah).
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Cool man.

BTW, you totally miss the idea behind RSS :D Aggregate != aggregate all items into a single source (although many readers can do that, including SharpReader); rather, it aggregates multiple sources and the published items into a single reader and you can freely navigate between them. The value of having a uniform XML vocabulary through which you can publish content items is immensely useful. Also, it's a simple matter if you wish to create a single feed from all of your feeds...

That's one, IMO very limited, use of RSS. Why shouldn't RSS readers aggregate everything into a single source? They should also remove duplicate entries, and filter based on my interests, and probably lots of other stuff I haven't thought of yet. Having a uniform XML vocabualry through which you can publish content is only immensely useful if you make some use out of it. I can freely navigate between sites on the internet in the same fashion RSS readers work simply by opening my bookmarks in a sidebar and clicking on them. I want to do more with RSS than just that.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Descartes
Cool man.

BTW, you totally miss the idea behind RSS :D Aggregate != aggregate all items into a single source (although many readers can do that, including SharpReader); rather, it aggregates multiple sources and the published items into a single reader and you can freely navigate between them. The value of having a uniform XML vocabulary through which you can publish content items is immensely useful. Also, it's a simple matter if you wish to create a single feed from all of your feeds...

That's one, IMO very limited, use of RSS. Why shouldn't RSS readers aggregate everything into a single source? They should also remove duplicate entries, and filter based on my interests, and probably lots of other stuff I haven't thought of yet. Having a uniform XML vocabualry through which you can publish content is only immensely useful if you make some use out of it.

Keep in mind that RSS is a standard for content representation, not how applications consume it. You're free to aggregate RSS feeds in any manner you wish, but by almost all standards aggregation does not mean to change the content itself; yes, aggregating multiple feeds into a single source obfuscates the original source and therefore constitutes a change to the content.

I can freely navigate between sites on the internet in the same fashion RSS readers work simply by opening my bookmarks in a sidebar and clicking on them. I want to do more with RSS than just that.

If you really think that then you haven't exploited RSS yet. RSS is about content delivery; for example, you can subscribe to a given RSS feed based on category only. If you think you can as efficiently navigate between 50 websites publishing desirable content along with a load of superfluous content then you haven't seen the value of RSS.

I'm not admonishing you for your statements by any means, but believe me, RSS has much more utility than you are considering. Give it more time and investigation...
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Descartes
Cool man.

BTW, you totally miss the idea behind RSS :D Aggregate != aggregate all items into a single source (although many readers can do that, including SharpReader); rather, it aggregates multiple sources and the published items into a single reader and you can freely navigate between them. The value of having a uniform XML vocabulary through which you can publish content items is immensely useful. Also, it's a simple matter if you wish to create a single feed from all of your feeds...

That's one, IMO very limited, use of RSS. Why shouldn't RSS readers aggregate everything into a single source? They should also remove duplicate entries, and filter based on my interests, and probably lots of other stuff I haven't thought of yet. Having a uniform XML vocabualry through which you can publish content is only immensely useful if you make some use out of it.

Keep in mind that RSS is a standard for content representation, not how applications consume it. You're free to aggregate RSS feeds in any manner you wish, but by almost all standards aggregation does not mean to change the content itself; yes, aggregating multiple feeds into a single source obfuscates the original source and therefore constitutes a change to the content.

I can freely navigate between sites on the internet in the same fashion RSS readers work simply by opening my bookmarks in a sidebar and clicking on them. I want to do more with RSS than just that.

If you really think that then you haven't exploited RSS yet. RSS is about content delivery; for example, you can subscribe to a given RSS feed based on category only. If you think you can as efficiently navigate between 50 websites publishing desirable content along with a load of superfluous content then you haven't seen the value of RSS.

I'm not admonishing you for your statements by any means, but believe me, RSS has much more utility than you are considering. Give it more time and investigation...

I thtink you're misunderstanding me. I'm all for RSS. The idea is cool and should have lots of good applications. My problem is with the current readers. None of them seem to be able to display content the way I want to see it.

RSS = good
Current Aggregators = meh.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Descartes
Cool man.

BTW, you totally miss the idea behind RSS :D Aggregate != aggregate all items into a single source (although many readers can do that, including SharpReader); rather, it aggregates multiple sources and the published items into a single reader and you can freely navigate between them. The value of having a uniform XML vocabulary through which you can publish content items is immensely useful. Also, it's a simple matter if you wish to create a single feed from all of your feeds...

That's one, IMO very limited, use of RSS. Why shouldn't RSS readers aggregate everything into a single source? They should also remove duplicate entries, and filter based on my interests, and probably lots of other stuff I haven't thought of yet. Having a uniform XML vocabualry through which you can publish content is only immensely useful if you make some use out of it.

Keep in mind that RSS is a standard for content representation, not how applications consume it. You're free to aggregate RSS feeds in any manner you wish, but by almost all standards aggregation does not mean to change the content itself; yes, aggregating multiple feeds into a single source obfuscates the original source and therefore constitutes a change to the content.

I can freely navigate between sites on the internet in the same fashion RSS readers work simply by opening my bookmarks in a sidebar and clicking on them. I want to do more with RSS than just that.

If you really think that then you haven't exploited RSS yet. RSS is about content delivery; for example, you can subscribe to a given RSS feed based on category only. If you think you can as efficiently navigate between 50 websites publishing desirable content along with a load of superfluous content then you haven't seen the value of RSS.

I'm not admonishing you for your statements by any means, but believe me, RSS has much more utility than you are considering. Give it more time and investigation...

I thtink you're misunderstanding me. I'm all for RSS. The idea is cool and should have lots of good applications. My problem is with the current readers. None of them seem to be able to display content the way I want to see it.

RSS = good
Current Aggregators = meh.

No, I understood what you meant, but perhaps I was arguing the wrong point. I merely meant that the current aggregators do in fact aggregate, but they don't modify the content (as would be necessary to truly coalesce multiple sources into one); however, readers like SharpReader and other readers do combine all feeds into a single list allowing you to identify which posts you haven't read, etc.
 

notfred

Lifer
Feb 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Descartes
Cool man.

BTW, you totally miss the idea behind RSS :D Aggregate != aggregate all items into a single source (although many readers can do that, including SharpReader); rather, it aggregates multiple sources and the published items into a single reader and you can freely navigate between them. The value of having a uniform XML vocabulary through which you can publish content items is immensely useful. Also, it's a simple matter if you wish to create a single feed from all of your feeds...

That's one, IMO very limited, use of RSS. Why shouldn't RSS readers aggregate everything into a single source? They should also remove duplicate entries, and filter based on my interests, and probably lots of other stuff I haven't thought of yet. Having a uniform XML vocabualry through which you can publish content is only immensely useful if you make some use out of it.

Keep in mind that RSS is a standard for content representation, not how applications consume it. You're free to aggregate RSS feeds in any manner you wish, but by almost all standards aggregation does not mean to change the content itself; yes, aggregating multiple feeds into a single source obfuscates the original source and therefore constitutes a change to the content.

I can freely navigate between sites on the internet in the same fashion RSS readers work simply by opening my bookmarks in a sidebar and clicking on them. I want to do more with RSS than just that.

If you really think that then you haven't exploited RSS yet. RSS is about content delivery; for example, you can subscribe to a given RSS feed based on category only. If you think you can as efficiently navigate between 50 websites publishing desirable content along with a load of superfluous content then you haven't seen the value of RSS.

I'm not admonishing you for your statements by any means, but believe me, RSS has much more utility than you are considering. Give it more time and investigation...

I thtink you're misunderstanding me. I'm all for RSS. The idea is cool and should have lots of good applications. My problem is with the current readers. None of them seem to be able to display content the way I want to see it.

RSS = good
Current Aggregators = meh.

No, I understood what you meant, but perhaps I was arguing the wrong point. I merely meant that the current aggregators do in fact aggregate, but they don't modify the content (as would be necessary to truly coalesce multiple sources into one); however, readers like SharpReader and other readers do combine all feeds into a single list allowing you to identify which posts you haven't read, etc.

I had it (SharpReader) installed and couldn't find that option....