Who doesn't like the direction MS is going with XP?

[AncientPC]

Win 95 was alright, 98SE was better, but ME sucked big time. I hate how they lock the computer more and more to protect the computer from the user. That's why I prefer Win2k over ME anyday. However, with the upcoming previews of XP it looks like another hyped version of ME.

 

[Brazen]

I agree. XP looks too cartoony.

 

[KurtisM]

I also hate the direction Microsoft is heading. They are doing literally everything they can, aside from just giving copies away, of stopping Piracy of anything. In reaction, this makes the computer so much more insecure and hard to use as well as just plain annoying. Windows 2000 is good for Windows but I still prefer Linux (although I'm not using it right now).

 

[MGMorden]

I like the look of XP and think it could go a ways as to integrating the computer into the home on a broader scale. I do wish they'd stop "protecting" me from messing up my computer though.

 

[Davegod75]

looks "sissy" to me. However the interface is skinable so you should be able to make it look the way you want to.

 

They cannot think of any new ideas at the system level, so they choose to focus on UI. Just like Apple, all looks, no brains.

 

[Noriaki]

Well if XP is to Win2000 as ME was to 98SE then I won't touch XP...

From a "Power User" viewpoint I hate where MS is going. But I think it's probably good for the majority of joe-blow home user.

 

[Wizkid]

The new subscription-based pricing sucks hard... it's all just a scheme from microsoft to make money every year without having to make products for us to buy....

I'm happy with win2k and I will be sticking with it until I get a corporate copy of xp (they can't copy protect corporate copies b/c then ghosting wouldn't work and no one would buy it)... hehe

 

[GT1999]

I've ran Whistler Beta 1 for about 3 weeks. It was great. I had to disable the extra-large blue start menu, sure, but it was a great, stable OS. It had some minor bugs, but hell, it was beta.

I've used Win2000 for about 5 or 6 months maybe now, and it's great - but I still prefer 98SE for games if you want to know the truth. The rest of Win2000's features is why I'm currently running it at home, and have installed it on the workstations at work.

As for XP, I've taken a look at the screenshots. It looks an aweful lot like Beta 1 still, but it does have more "crap", if you would call it that There's only one feature I've seen that I'd probably use, and that's the multiple IE windows that can be used as one button in the taskbar - VERY clever, and since I browse the web a lot, exclusively with IE, that would be a very nice feature to have.

 

[Sunner]

I've hated the way they have been heading ever since they moved away from DOS.
A 32 bit DOS with a shell on top, similar to the way Linux works, that would be fine with me.

NT and 95 weren't too bad, 98, 98SE and ME all suck IMO.
Win2K is good, though it could clearly be a tad less bloated, but its still good.

XP however looks outright pathetic.

As for avarge Joe's who dont know anything about computer, well being the selfish person that I am... fsck them!
A person who doesnt feel like spending at least a few hours learning the very basics of the OS has no business even touching a computer.

 

[Biggs]

To tell ya the truth, it isn't only Microshaft's direction I loathe but other software companies as well. The reason can be summed-up in one word, bloatware.

 

[Shudder]

Geekish Thoughts: So you like what they've done with IE and browser windows? Try opera, that's the way it's been for about 3 years

And it's been my experience that User Friendliness is only friendly to the complete idiots. People who know what they're doing get the shaft.

 

[Strafe]

WindowsBOB

aw c'mon the OS I'm sure will be fine, change the BOBlike skin and you're fine.

 

[Nitsuj]

Well XP is more tweakable than Win2K. I hate WinME I think it is a POS. I love Win2K, but XP is so much more. All the fancy UI stuff can be turned off, even some of the UI tweaks that were added back in Win98 can be turned off, like the Gradient on the title bar of windows.

As for the Multiple IE windows thing, its not just IE it is any app with allot of windows open, like Outlook, but if you don't like it... turn if off.

Allot of what MS seems to be trying to do is increase out of box experience, make the features that were always there, but could only be got to from the registry or should been there, accessible to all users, from the newbie to the advanced and even the know it alls (who actually do know jack).

Who here has WinME and had to search a site to turn off that damn system restore? Well now there is just on check box to turn it off.

Since Win98/EI4 added the web content in folders I always turned it of for performance, but in XP I have found that the little side bar actually suggests some useful tasks. Saving me time.

XP will be the OS of all users, the newbie will love its hand holding and the expert will turn off all the hand holding and may even find a couple new features that make the upgrade with the money.

The coolest feature for me since I build computers for my relatives who live as far as a 1000 miles from me, is the Remote desktop assistance. This will save me hours on the phone with my mom thing to walk her through installing that new program or any of the other 20 reasons she might call me up saying "help!"

When XP is released allot of you will be surprised.

 

[loosbrew]

<< Allot of what MS seems to be trying to do is increase out of box experience, make the features that were always there, but could only be got to from the registry or should been there, accessible to all users, from the newbie to the advanced >>


tell me how i can make multiple downloads with IE in one windows via registry or another way! i like opera but id rather just use one app for all things. just a POS that sometimes opera cant or wont open some sites.

thanx
loosbrew

 

[Noriaki]

Hey Nitsuj: you might know this.

I have:

Win95 OSR2.1 OEM Full Version
Win98SE Retail Upgrade Version

These qualify me for the Win 2000 Pro Upgrade

Will they qualify me for the Win XP Pro Upgrade, I know they will do Win XP Personal, but I don't want XP Personal. I want XP Pro or 2000 Pro.

I can continue with Win98SE for a while longer...I have come this far...if XP Pro will allow me to get the Upgrade version (With Win2k it's 2/3s the price...) I think I'll wait it out...if I can turn off all the extras I don't want I might as well wait a few more months and get the newest version...

So can Win95 OEM Full or Win98SE Retail Upgrade qualify for the Win XP Pro retail upgrade? If I can't I think I'm just going to get Win2k Pro upgrade now...

Edit: If you care Personal is no good to me because I plan to build a Dual CPU machine later this year or maybe early next year. So I need Win2k Pro or XP Pro (that's also why I can wait, I'm SMP right now, so I can survive with Win98SE for a while longer).

 

[IBuyUFO]

Windows XP is going to be an awesome operating system. You're complaining about it now but you'll end up using it. I like how windows xp looks and operates. It works better than windows 2000 in some areas such as multimedia and this is the market that Microsoft is aiming for. The menu system is much more simpler which I like but I'm not confined to only that menu. The good thing about skinning is that you can always change it. If you don't like the way it looks you can change it. The skins do not slow down the system like some of you may think. In the case of Stardock's windowsblind there is some slow down and major use of resources because it's not integrated into the OS. I was quite surprised as to how good the OS was. I guess what I'm saying is not to judge something unless you've tried it.

 

[cs1205]

there are gonna be only 2 win XP's?
not like 6 different win XP's?
aww..
ms not gonna make more money?
hahahaha
like how ms has..now
win me
win pro
server
adv server
dat center
=T
o yea i heard that
x-box will take full advantage of win xp

ms is too smart..
they just gonna make more more and money...

 

[Aaron1982]

^ dork above

 

[Noriaki]

<<
ms not gonna make more money?
hahahaha
like how ms has..now
win me
win pro
server
adv server
dat center
>>



First off

Win2k Pro: 2CPUs
Server: 4
AServer: 8
DCServer: 64 or something crazy like that.

So if you have larger server requirements you buy the higher level
Also if you want certain services only available in the higher level ones you buy them.

This is a standard practice
Just like for hardware, you don't buy an 8way CPU when you need 2.

If you want more powerful hardware you pay more for it, it's the same for software.

 

[XNice]

I think that Win98 SE with the Litestep shell replacement is the best OS configuration. Litestep lets you configure so much that I have since stopped whining/complaining about the lack of features that windows has. When used with Windows 2000 it is a powerhouse. It does take some time learning but what doesnt? I personally think WinME was crap but i installed it on some other machiens and those people like it fine. But a lot of yous would like litestep if you gave it a try. Here's a screenshot of Mine

 

[lupin]

why not litestep on Win2K?

Been on Win2K for almost a year now, and I love it. Especially with Litestep's shell. although the system is getting buggy lately.. and I thought I can survive without reformatting with Win2K.

 

[Sunner]

Noriaki, Win2K DC &quot;only&quot; supports 32 CPU's.

As for XP, somehow I think I'll skip on that one.
It doesnt bring anything even remotely useful to the table for me, but it is the worst piece of bloatware from Redmond so far.

Its funny how Microsoft is bragging about functions like this remote control, when UNIX/Linux's have had it for ages.

 

[AncientPC]

However, the only difference is that MS has the money and power to spam the fact that they have a remote control to the public where as Linux's advantages/improvements are only found out if you personally go research them.

 

[Shudder]

I used Litestep for about 2 years straight till one day on my old PC it messed up.. For some reason when I booted, it ran EVERYTHING on my root C drive, but only when I ran litestep. Probably something stupid like an extra space or return in my .ini file, but it was enough to just say hell with it. I need to go back, especially since my system is stable

Windows 2000 pretty much killed Linux for me. I kept putting LInux on but Windows 2000 didn't piss me off enough to drop it.