Who do you think were the 10 most evil Heads of State who had been born by 1930?

Anarchist420

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My list:
1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Joseph Stalin
3. Adolf Hitler
4. FDR
5. George Washington (the evil Constitution, sold the people to the banksters, invoked first national draft to crush the Whiskey Rebellion, smeared his political opponents as "democrats" when he was the one who was a democrat, etc.)
6. Otto von Bismarck
7. Emperor Nero
8. Winston Churchill
9. Woodrow Wilson
10. ?
Fairly close to in order. Stalin worse than Hitler, Lincoln worse than Stalin, and Lincoln and George Washington worse than Bismarck (mainly because I'm an American libertarian rather than a German libertarian, so Bismarck had little effect on me). Washington is fifth because he didn't have as many people killed as the first four. Hitler and Stalin killed more people than Lincoln but Lincoln is the Federal Phoenix, while Stalin and Hitler are rejected by the people of their countries today.
 

CallMeJoe

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You forgot Arthur; I guess you were duped by that whole "Camelot" thing...
 

ShawnD1

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You forgot Arthur; I guess you were duped by that whole "Camelot" thing...
Now that we look back, the King Arthur story sounds a lot like something from North Korea.

list of facts about Kim Jong Il
1 - At the moment of his birth, a bright star lit up the sky, the seasons spontaneously changed from winter to spring, and rainbows appeared

2 - Kim Jong Il’s iconic style has become a global phenomenon. The inspired look of his zipped up khaki tunics with matching pants has been spreading across the world

3 - Kim Jong Il is the most prominent statesman in the present world

4 - He invented the hamburger

5 - Kim Jong Il shot 38 under par on a regulation 18-hole golf course – including 5 holes in one! That score is 25 shots better than the best round in history

6 - If he gets addicted to a drug, everyone else does too

7 - He once kidnapped a prominent director to film a Godzilla ripoff for him

8 - He had disabled and short people deported from his capital

9 - For a few years in the early 1990s, it was confirmed by Hennessy that Kim Jong Il was it’s best customer, spending about $600,000 to $850,000 annually on the liquor

10 - Kijong-Dong is a propaganda city that was originally built in the 1950s by Kim Jong Il’s father right on the border, this was to display the North’s superiority
 

Schadenfroh

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In no order:

Gaius Marius (later in life he became pure evil, good guy early on)
Maximilien Robespierre (got carried away)
Mao Tse-tung
Nero (nuff said, guy was batshit insane and an absolute monarch)
Stalin
Hitler
Genghis Khan
Queen Mary I of England
Vlad III the Impaler
Various Roman emperors

duped by that whole "Camelot" thing...
It is only a model...
 

Tom

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I guess the 4 or 5 million, of his own people, Lenin caused to die doesn't make the top ten ?
 

ShawnD1

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I guess the 4 or 5 million, of his own people, Lenin caused to die doesn't make the top ten ?

Nope. Bad social policy doesn't count as murder. Arguably millions of people have died because of terrible HMO healthcare but few people would say Nixon deserves to be up there with Hitler and Stalin.
 

sonoma1993

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My list:
1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Joseph Stalin
3. Adolf Hitler
4. FDR
5. George Washington (the evil Constitution, sold the people to the banksters, invoked first national draft to crush the Whiskey Rebellion, smeared his political opponents as "democrats" when he was the one who was a democrat, etc.)
6. Otto von Bismarck
7. Emperor Nero
8. Winston Churchill
9. Woodrow Wilson
10. ?
Fairly close to in order. Stalin worse than Hitler, Lincoln worse than Stalin, and Lincoln and George Washington worse than Bismarck (mainly because I'm an American libertarian rather than a German libertarian, so Bismarck had little effect on me). Washington is fifth because he didn't have as many people killed as the first four. Hitler and Stalin killed more people than Lincoln but Lincoln is the Federal Phoenix, while Stalin and Hitler are rejected by the people of their countries today.

how can you compare Presidents Lincoln, Wilson, Washing, FDR, and Winston churchill to the evil heads Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin?
 

ProfJohn

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Nope. Bad social policy doesn't count as murder. Arguably millions of people have died because of terrible HMO healthcare but few people would say Nixon deserves to be up there with Hitler and Stalin.
The bolded part is total BS.

Studies have shown that more people die due to errors made by healthcare providers than due to lack of healthcare.

In both cases the numbers are rather small. In the thousands, not the millions.

More people die in interstate crashes per year, does that mean we should add Eisenhower to this list?
 

ShawnD1

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how can you compare Presidents Lincoln, Wilson, Washing, FDR, and Winston churchill to the evil heads Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin?
Because Lincoln was a democrat republican SOCIALIST who STOLE property (black people) from the south and made them "free" (ie communism).

Wilson has the kind of face you just want to punch. That's enough to make the list
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ProfJohn

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Why can't we lock Anarchist420 and Dave in a room together and throw away the key.
 

Tom

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Nope. Bad social policy doesn't count as murder. Arguably millions of people have died because of terrible HMO healthcare but few people would say Nixon deserves to be up there with Hitler and Stalin.

Forced mass starvation and political executions are evil.

And the net effect of HMO care is almost assuredly positive, so that's very unlikley to be an accurate point.
 

ShawnD1

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The bolded part is total BS.

Studies have shown that more people die due to errors made by healthcare providers than due to lack of healthcare.
Have you ever had to deal with an HMO? They dick you around like crazy. Instead of just admitting you have cancer and you need some kind of treatment, they'll pass you around and hope you die off before they let you see their in-house specialist.



More people die in interstate crashes per year, does that mean we should add Eisenhower to this list?
That's not fair because "interstate" highways are just wide highways. Without his huge interstate highways, there would still be single lane highways and people would still die.

I've always wondered why the accident rate on 2+ plane highways is so high. IMO, they're a lot safer because I'm not in a mad rush to get around some slow lovely human in a Prius and get back into my lane before having a head on collision. Single lane highways = Auschwitz of driving.
 

thraashman

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Why can't we lock Anarchist420 and Dave in a room together and throw away the key.

Why just those two? I'm sure there's quite a few on these forums who deserve to be locked away just as much. Namely a certain obvious spoof troll account and a certain advocate for what he calls "We The People".
 

thraashman

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how can you compare Presidents Lincoln, Wilson, Washing, FDR, and Winston churchill to the evil heads Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin?

Or, you know, Pol Pot who didn't even make his list. Or Genghis Khan who may have killed as many as 40 million people through his war campaigns. His list is stupid because he's functionally brain dead.
 

DaveSimmons

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Sauron, Emperor Palpatine.

We don't really know when the Davros was born since the Daleks can travel through time.
 

Infohawk

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Why do people respond to this idiot's threads?

I can maybe excuse the infrequent posters who aren't familiar with with troll420's threads and respond. But there is no excuse for the regulars to be be responding to this guy. Shame on them.
 

fskimospy

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I can maybe excuse the infrequent posters who aren't familiar with with troll420's threads and respond. But there is no excuse for the regulars to be be responding to this guy. Shame on them.

Right. I mean I used to respond to his threads just to call him a moron or make fun of him but it clearly has no impact, and it's time to give up I think. We need a sticky or something about this tool.
 

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