Whitney Houston

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Ok, her voice is quite soothing on the ears....
But as far as songs are...pretty boring, nothing transcendent from a writing perspective. No Mozart semblances in her songs at all. ;) :p
I'll probably finish her soundtracks by the end of this week, since her songs are so disposable....in terms of significance.
 

Scarpozzi

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It was really sad what cocaine did to her voice. It's natural for singers to lose their higher range anyways from age, but her longevity was really screwed by that stuff. Rick James knows this too.

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DigDog

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Ok, her voice is quite soothing on the ears....
But as far as songs are...pretty boring, nothing transcendent from a writing perspective. No Mozart semblances in her songs at all. ;) :p
I'll probably finish her soundtracks by the end of this week, since her songs are so disposable....in terms of significance.
i don't think she's ever written a song.

uh .. after a very brief googling, she did not.
 
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DigDog

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She does have some "note intuition" though. Considerable variation in her live performances.

let me clarify;

one on side, you got people like Madonna, where literally anyone could have done what they do. As far as my knowledge of the music industry extends, the myth is that her contribution to her discography are
1. the words "holiday, holiday"
2. the phrase "music makes the people come together"
with everything else being written by someone else, mostly Nile Rodgers.

On the other, people like Tina Turner, Whitney Houston, etc - there's many, because it's absolutely not weird that singer *do not* write their music, specially solo singers. The amount of cooperation that they bring in writing their own melodic and lyrical lines varies, but even when not trained, they come from families and careers of professional musicians.
The fact alone that they don't write songs, doesn't mean they are not musicians.
At age eleven, Houston began performing as a soloist in the junior gospel choir at the New Hope Baptist Church in Newark, where she also learned to play the piano.[16] Her first solo performance in the church was "Guide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah".[17]

While Houston was still in school, her mother, Cissy, continued to teach her how to sing.[18] Cissy was a member of the group the Sweet Inspirations which also opened for and sang backup for Elvis Presley.[19] Houston spent some of her teens touring nightclubs where Cissy was performing and she would occasionally get onstage and perform with her. Houston was also exposed to the music of Chaka Khan, Gladys Knight and Roberta Flack, most of whom would have an influence on her as a singer and performer.[20] In 1977, aged 14, she became a backup singer on the Michael Zager Band's single "Life's a Party".[21] When she was around 16, Houston sang background vocals for Chaka Khan and Lou Rawls on their 1980 albums, Naughty and Shades of Blue, respectively.[
here instead is the link if you wanted to hear what madonna sounded like in the "Early Life" part of her Wikipedia page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti_mt_FV18A (don't click it, it's horrible)

Dude, i grew up listening to her first 2 albums, you won't get me to criticise Whitney. Normally one or more professional musicians will bring them songs, and they re-work them.
Also, Madonna relied on already-finished products, but most singers try their songs on tour, and by the time the song is ready to go in the album, it will have changed noticeably.

You can get a hint of this if you listen to Bowie's live albums. He was his own producer so he would put it in the album first, but by the end of the tour the song sounds nothing like it did at release.
 

nakedfrog

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She's alright, I don't hate it when I hear a Whitney Houston song (unless it's I Will Always Love You)
I'd rather listen to a dozen of her songs than a single Mariah Carey song.
 

Mermaidman

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It's a pity she did not (could not?) write her own songs. Her recordings are . . . soul-less, and I don't consider her a true artist.
Perhaps if she hadn't been derailed by drugs and died young, she may have evolved beyond being a singing machine.

(Typed above before seeing the other posts saying pretty much the same thing.)
 

dainthomas

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Thanks Bobby Brown for getting her hooked on that garbage. A great seemingly effortless voice lost. But yeah, the lyrics on most of her songs are meh.
 

Torn Mind

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Thanks Bobby Brown for getting her hooked on that garbage. A great seemingly effortless voice lost. But yeah, the lyrics on most of her songs are meh.

According to Robin Crawford, they were doing coke as teens....
It did get worse after marrying Brown according to Crawford.
 

Torn Mind

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It's a pity she did not (could not?) write her own songs. Her recordings are . . . soul-less, and I don't consider her a true artist.
Perhaps if she hadn't been derailed by drugs and died young, she may have evolved beyond being a singing machine.

(Typed above before seeing the other posts saying pretty much the same thing.)
I do think those who heard her in live performances were treated to something much better than the records themselves.
 

dainthomas

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According to Robin Crawford, they were doing coke as teens....
It did get worse after marrying Brown according to Crawford.

Wow, ok. Didn't know that.
 

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This song caught my attention on the studio record. The changes and ad libs do make it better live.

Belinda Carlisle and New Edition announced her award.
 

Oyeve

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I worked at Arista records through most of her career. We had to do so much processing of her last couple of albums because the drugs really took a toll. When we shut down the company I grabbed a few Platinum Award albums of hers figuring she was not long for the earth and I was right, but the award albums did not go up in value at all. She was a decent singer and most of her fame was all due to timing and marketing. Like the Beatles, it was all timing and not necessarily talent.
 
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