White House withholds Rice speech

[Czar]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Linflas

The only baboons are all the people trying to politicize a terrorist act irregardless of party or ideology. Anyone willing to put aside their partisan rhetoric knows damn well that pre 9/11/2001 America would not have stood for the types of operations and actions necessary to prevent the attacks anymore than pre December 7, 1941 America would have stood for the actions necessary to prevent Pearl Harbor.

Two completely different scenarios.

To prevent Pearl Harbor, scrambling fighters and moving the ships out of the port would have lessened or greatly eliminated our losses.

To prevent the 9/11 attacks, pre-emptively attacking Afghanistan would have been supported as there was sufficient evidence that Al Qaeda was behind the 1993 WTC bombing, the 1998 embassy bombings, the Millennium attack attempts, and the USS Cole as well as attempts to blow several jetliners and the Taliban were harboring Al Qaeda. The Taliban, themselves, were coming under pressure from groups such as R.A.W.A., as well.

Not to forget just a few months earlier if i remember correctly the Taliban blew up the budda statues, the whole world was in shock then as well

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Linflas

The only baboons are all the people trying to politicize a terrorist act irregardless of party or ideology. Anyone willing to put aside their partisan rhetoric knows damn well that pre 9/11/2001 America would not have stood for the types of operations and actions necessary to prevent the attacks anymore than pre December 7, 1941 America would have stood for the actions necessary to prevent Pearl Harbor.

Two completely different scenarios.

To prevent Pearl Harbor, scrambling fighters and moving the ships out of the port would have lessened or greatly eliminated our losses.

To prevent the 9/11 attacks, pre-emptively attacking Afghanistan would have been supported as there was sufficient evidence that Al Qaeda was behind the 1993 WTC bombing, the 1998 embassy bombings, the Millennium attack attempts, and the USS Cole as well as attempts to blow several jetliners and the Taliban were harboring Al Qaeda. The Taliban, themselves, were coming under pressure from groups such as R.A.W.A., as well.

If Bush had tried to pre-emptively attack Afghanistan I can almost guarantee that the left would have screamed wag the dog. Everyone seems to forget that the day before 9/11 Bush was under constant political attack for the election and the economy. Similarly had Clinton taken action he would have faced similar accusations from his enemies. It is very easy to sit back and Monday morning quarterback should have, could have, would have while ignoring the total picture of what the mood of the country at that time was.

I'm referring to Clinton's wanting to attack Afghanistan.

We all know perfectly well that the Bush Administration had NO plans for doing anything with regard to Afghanistan. Just check out the so-far released portions of Rice's speech.

there were plans, or ideas for a plan

before the attacks there were talks with the taliban about the pipeline that was supposed to go through afghanistan, there were I think 5 western countries involved and in the end the Taliban refused.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

This administration has an obsession with secrecy. The attitude from day one is that you only know what you need to know, and you don't need to know anything. Not just about the war, but economic policy, environmental issues, you name it. It's in their nature to hide things even if it were to their advantage to do otherwise. This is a paranoid administration.

Bush is basically a less intelligent and less compassionate version of Nixon.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: conjur

We all know perfectly well that the Bush Administration had NO plans for doing anything with regard to Afghanistan. Just check out the so-far released portions of Rice's speech.

Just think about what you just posted here.

I have changed my mind, what harm would
there be in releasing the speech, it is most likely garbage anyway...

Surely nothing useful that anyone could use against us..