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White House shooter: I am a modern day Jesus Christ

Bateluer

Bateluer

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/18/us/white-house-shooting-profile/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Weeks before his arrest on a charge of attempting to assassinate President Barack Obama, an Idaho man taped a video pitch for Oprah Winfrey -- expressing his contempt for government, offering secrets to solving global problems and proclaiming himself to be "the modern-day Jesus Christ."
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Nut.

"I have never felt so sure about something in my whole life. I'm willing to defend these words with my heart, my soul, flesh and bones," Ortega says. "Please do not take me as a joke or as a deception. I have never felt so sure that I was sent here from God to lead the world to Zion."

Later, he adds, "It's not just a coincidence that I look like Jesus. I am the modern-day Jesus Christ that you all have been waiting for" -- before "begging" Winfrey to put him on her show.
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Why does the Almighty God love violence so much and only speak to crazy people?
 
He segues to a rant against the U.S. government, which he claims bullies other nations and has "deceived the American people so that (it) can steal other countries' goods, which is the oil."

"I also have with me the answer to worldwide peace,"
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Sounds like a left wing hippie to me.
 
Throckmorton said:
This one is on you, Christians.
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How so? Christians brought him down. He is no hero celebrated in the streets, he is a man soon to be charged and sent away. There will be no killings in his honor, no exchange of hostages to set him free. His has no army, no supporters, he is alone.

If he had managed to harm someone, people would not have danced in the streets. We would have killed him ourselves. That is what this country does, we police our own.

We expect no less from Muslim countries.
 
Bateluer said:
Why does the Almighty God love violence so much and only speak to crazy people?
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Throckmorton said:
This one is on you, Christians.
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The guy is obviously psychotic.

In popular imagination, at least, psychotic delusions often have a religious component. In reality, many psychotic delusions are not religious. However, many delusions involve hallucinations or mind control by unseen agents, and so it's not too surprising that those who experience them fold them into their religious background. The religious beliefs don't trigger the psychosis, but they become enmeshed within it.
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http://epiphenom.fieldofscience.com/2010/08/why-psychotic-patients-with-religious.html
 
This forum is sad and disgusting.

Take the ravings of a deranged man, and do your damnedest to assign him to the other party, for that minuscule perceived moral advantage for your team.

You worthless hacks.
 
MotF Bane said:
This forum is sad and disgusting.

Take the ravings of a deranged man, and do your damnedest to assign him to the other party, for that minuscule perceived moral advantage for your team.

You worthless hacks.
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Yep, I said basically the same in THE OTHER thread about this nut. In that other thread, he is a righty bible thumping OWS hippy jew if you combine all of the posts. 🙄
 
MotF Bane said:
This forum is sad and disgusting.

Take the ravings of a deranged man, and do your damnedest to assign him to the other party, for that minuscule perceived moral advantage for your team.

You worthless hacks.
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Sadly this isn't the first right wing shing dig... This shit has been going on from the right base for some time now and it appears to be getting worse ... So is it any wonder?? All in the name of Jesus! Or Ala ...

I've said it before...and say it again ... There is NO DIFFERENCE between one organized religion than another.
 
Bateluer said:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/18/us/white-house-shooting-profile/index.html?hpt=hp_c2



Nut.



Why does the Almighty God love violence so much and only speak to crazy people?
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Because only for crazy people the Almighty God loves violence and crazy people. It is a prejudice problem. He very well will have issues with self esteem(his words, duh). But people like that want to feel superior, not equal to other people. Why ? Because they always felt less then others. Thus they develop this grudge and over time they jump from feeling less then others, to feeling superior to others. There is no build in integrator smoothing out extreme jumps in mood or self image. It is similar as how a differentiator works, It is fast, but produces extreme variations( recognize the IQ factor here ?). If one feels like an outsider, one will not develop this automatic ability to integrate the events and the emotional effects that one experiences over time. If such a person is not made aware of the lack of this ability that is normally originated in the sub conscience...
See it as a in the background running process. If such a person is not emulating it consciously that person will create more extreme views over the world. It is how the brain works. The brain is volatile but that is why it is able to adapt quickly. That is where the strength of the brain comes from. If any person does not learn to understand, accept and control it. Life is going to be hell for him/her and others surrounding him/her.
 
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Throckmorton said:
This one is on you, Christians.
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How so? Schizophrenia is a biochemically induced disorder. It has a strong genetic component, which has been revealed by studies of twins separated at birth. There can be pscyhological triggers that activate it, but the predisposition is biological. What that means is that if he had been raised Muslim, he'd probably think he's Mohammed instead. If he'd been raised without religion but was fascinated with history, he might think he's Napolean Bonaparte. Religion, per se, is irrelevant.
 
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We know Ortega is crazy from his own quote of, "I have never felt so sure about something in my whole life. I'm willing to defend these words with my heart, my soul, flesh and bones," Ortega says. "Please do not take me as a joke or as a deception. I have never felt so sure that I was sent here from God to lead the world to Zion."

Later, he adds, "It's not just a coincidence that I look like Jesus. I am the modern-day Jesus Christ that you all have been waiting for" -- before "begging" Winfrey to put him on her show."

The point is and remains, no living person for 1900 years has any idea of what the original Jesus Christ looked like. All we know is that all those priceless works of art in the Vatican are based on Euro centric fictions certain to be wrong.

If we start with someone like Yassir Arafat, its likely closer to the mark but still wrong.

Its the enduring ideas and ideals of Jesus that hold appeal, and there Ortega and Jesus are totally contrasting individuals. But for that matter, so are Jesus and most others claiming to be Christian. After all Jesus may have gone to Jerusalem to confront the religious establishment, but Jesus never took up the sword to assassinate them or advocate his followers do so.

And now Ortega can tell it to the judge and see where it gets him.
 
MotF Bane said:
This forum is sad and disgusting.

Take the ravings of a deranged man, and do your damnedest to assign him to the other party, for that minuscule perceived moral advantage for your team.

You worthless hacks.
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Are you suggesting perhaps that Jesus posts here instead of shooting at the White House? 🙂
 
amdhunter said:
If he actually accomplished his goal and brought harm to the President; you'd better believe every Right Winged Conservative Teabagger would believe he was.
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Who is more twisted...all those scary Right Winged Conservative Teabaggers that you imagine would proclaim him as Jesus if he somehow managed to kill our President...or yourself for being so fucking deluded as to imagine such a perversity?
 
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