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Even if that list was true, it'd all be because of the EPA, which Trump is actively trying to kill.Right from Trump's Facebook yesterday:
Making America Great!
Even if that list was true, it'd all be because of the EPA, which Trump is actively trying to kill.Right from Trump's Facebook yesterday:
Making America Great!
No, we're enjoying winning. The country is on a great path now, we really dodged a bullet in 2016. You're only move is to call me stupid... <yawn>
This. I wasnt a fan of the early replacement bulbs (expensive, the light quality was poor, and they were too big to fit some of my fixtures), but LEDs are excellent, and the price is competitive.It's probably too late really to make a huge difference. Newer LEDs even in less common shapes are far superior to the incandescents they're replacing in energy cost, service life, and the ability to select preferred color temp. You'd have to be really dumb to prefer incandescents over them now.
No, we're enjoying winning. The country is on a great path now, we really dodged a bullet in 2016. You're only move is to call me stupid... <yawn>
Why do you insist on conflating rich idiots with more money than sense (and no true desire to fix problems) with 'liberals'?Hypocrite liberals. Light bulbs... LOL
https://jezebel.com/look-at-all-these-celebrities-fighting-climate-change-w-1837279211
Could someone explain what possible rationalization there could be for this.
Hypocrite liberals. Light bulbs... LOL
https://jezebel.com/look-at-all-these-celebrities-fighting-climate-change-w-1837279211
Don't care. LED and other technologies are already at price parity, TCO is way below incandescents, and new tech has an 84% adoption rate per the article you linked. Let the old codgers who still have POTS telephone service and such have their legacy bulbs until they croak soon and the problem will solve itself. Plus there might be a few percentage points of use cases where an incandescent actually is the best solution even given the advantages of newer technologies.
I wonder if the administration is going to order cities to tear out their street lights and put gas lamps back in.
Or possibly whale oil lamps.I wonder if the administration is going to order cities to tear out their street lights and put gas lamps back in.
Nah, that would be barbaric. We'll switch to clean coal lights. You just need to have someone constantly shoveling in the clean coal, but that creates jobs.
Is it clean coal gas? Won't touch it otherwise.
After a bit of reading, I think manufacturers' objections have to do with commercial lighting, specifically HID lighting. I don't pretend to understand all the ins & outs of it. This is about the regulations that didn't go into effect-
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It probably reflects the desires of their customers. LED lighting is more efficient & will pay for itself in the long run but sometimes that's a very long run for lighting used only intermittently as in sports venues. The upfront price for LED's is a lot higher & the effect is more critical when construction is done on borrowed money. LED's make huge sense in indoor/outdoor parking & public lighting applications where they stay on all night, also in industrial facilities where the lights are on 24/7/365.
The other side of it is that the fossil fuel industry wants to sell more product in the future, not less, which runs counter to the idea of reducing CO2 emissions. Their influence in the Trump admin is obviously enormous.
Maybe a win-win is to support an infrastructure bill to tear out all those old sodium streetlights and replace them with LEDs? Probably not the top need for infrastructure but if incandescent bulbs really drive you that batty then spend a few billion riding ourselves of them.
Maybe a win-win is to support an infrastructure bill to tear out all those old sodium streetlights and replace them with LEDs? Probably not the top need for infrastructure but if incandescent bulbs really drive you that batty then spend a few billion riding ourselves of them.
Is Al Gore really all that relevant at this point and who is Leo?Trump uses less efficient light bulbs, lefty heads explode.
Al Gore and Leo take private jets to climate change conference? Lefites think they're heroes.
Is Al Gore really all that relevant at this point and who is Leo?
Is Al Gore really all that relevant at this point and who is Leo?
Trump is a dyed in the wool old school capitalist. As such he's against government regulation of [you name it]. Figures all that stuff is liberal whining.Even if that list was true, it'd all be because of the EPA, which Trump is actively trying to kill.
#slowsostupidTrump uses less efficient light bulbs, lefty heads explode.
Al Gore and Leo take private jets to climate change conference? Lefites think they're heroes.
Yep, that's really the only waY to explain the irrational. Actually, it's completely rational if you realize that it'sLEDs were invented by college educated (ie. liberal brainwashed) snowflakes. Real men use incandescent....or something like that.
Someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
Seriously though...someone probably told Trump LEDs cause cancer, or maybe him/his family just recently bought some stock in an incandescent bulb manufacturer? Who knows lol.
