White couple gives birth to a Surprise Black baby!!!!!1111111

[SlitheryDee]

IF your jewish you dont want a catholic kid. :biggrin:

We joke about this, but somebody somewhere raised a big stink over the fact that the donor's religion wasn't included in the sales sheet, and ever since then it has been. I didn't even see a place for IQ on there, but heaven forbid we impregnate our women with sperm that doesn't believe in Jesus (or whatever it is you believe). It's goddamn sperm morons! It's doesn't HAVE a religion.

 

[LegendKiller]

I don't think that's even in play here.

- Lady requested specific criteria.
- Facility matched donor records with Vial #380.
- Employee at facility misread and shipped Vial #330.

The facility is most likely liable for improperly handling of the product. Because the "consumer" has the (blech) right to discriminate in choosing features about the donor profile, and race happens to be one of those, then one would have to assume that the company would be liable for the outcome.

However I don't think that the company should be held liable beyond damages for the delivered product: The Sperm.

This will probably be a very sticky situation. :sneaky:

How is this "discrimination"?

So because I say I might prefer to marry a white chick, and not a black chick, I am discriminating? Or if an Asian prefers to marry and have kids with another Asian, that is discrimination?

So now we need to be forced to open ourselves up and marry whoever society chooses is politically correct?

They should absolutely be liable - the product, the child, is not what they asked for. I would be *furious* if I was in this situation. While not 100% the same, when my wife had to undergo AI to have our first child, we were very worried about the sample being screwed up.

 

[SlitheryDee]

How is this "discrimination"?

So because I say I might prefer to marry a white chick, and not a black chick, I am discriminating? Or if an Asian prefers to marry and have kids with another Asian, that is discrimination?

So now we need to be forced to open ourselves up and marry whoever society chooses is politically correct?

They should absolutely be liable - the product, the child, is not what they asked for. I would be *furious* if I was in this situation. While not 100% the same, when my wife had to undergo AI to have our first child, we were very worried about the sample being screwed up.

I keep thinking about the effect this is going to have on the kid too. Somehow she's going to find out that she's a mistake in a very literal way. It's going to be hard to hide it living in a whole town full of white people who basically know her story. One day she's going to find out that her parents sued a company because she wasn't what they asked for. That she was the "wrong" kind of baby. What kind of resentment is that going to engender in her? This is truly a fuckup that could span generations.

 

[Phoenix86]

We joke about this, but somebody somewhere raised a big stink over the fact that the donor's religion wasn't included in the sales sheet, and ever since then it has been. I didn't even see a place for IQ on there, but heaven forbid we impregnate our women with sperm that doesn't believe in Jesus (or whatever it is you believe). It's goddamn sperm morons! It's doesn't HAVE a religion.

I can almost understand the Jewish thing. You realize they are a people as well as a religion, right?

In their religion they don't really favor non-Jews as partners. If you are going the sperm bank route you'd want a Jewish father, so your child is Jewish.

It has nothing to do with the sperms' beliefs.

Religion also plays a role in that persons life, not unlike education, or whatever other inane criteria is on there. Is it stupid? Sure, but it does make some sense at some level.

 

[SlitheryDee]

I can almost understand the Jewish thing. You realize they are a people as well as a religion, right?

In their religion they don't really favor non-Jews as partners. If you are going the sperm bank route you'd want a Jewish father, so your child is Jewish.

It has nothing to do with the sperms' beliefs.

Religion also plays a role in that persons life, not unlike education, or whatever other inane criteria is on there. Is it stupid? Sure, but it does make some sense at some level.

I'd put it under ethnicity in that case. Also, isn't it the mother that determines whether you're jewish or not?

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Better than the story about the guy who had twins with his wife. Fraternal twins. One white and one clearly not his.

 

[Phoenix86]

I'd put it under ethnicity in that case. Also, isn't it the mother that determines whether you're jewish or not?

I'd hate to get into the details, I just know it's important somehow and it wouldn't surprise me if they cared about the donor's beliefs.

I really don't try to rationalize other people's religion.

 

[LegendKiller]

I keep thinking about the effect this is going to have on the kid too. Somehow she's going to find out that she's a mistake in a very literal way. It's going to be hard to hide it living in a whole town full of white people who basically know her story. One day she's going to find out that her parents sued a company because she wasn't what they asked for. That she was the "wrong" kind of baby. What kind of resentment is that going to engender in her? This is truly a fuckup that could span generations.

Absolutely. It is a *very* tough situation. Anybody who has had IVF/AI worry about this. And what do you do if it happens? Do you resent your child then?

I do think the "people are racist in our area" thing is a little interesting given they are lesbian they are more worried about the race than the fact they are lesbians.

 

[SunnyD]

The case has merits due to negligence, but because it has no other merits it's frivolous?

lolwut.

It either has merit, or it doesn't. If you find it has merits, it can't be frivolous. Those two words are basically antonyms.

No no, no. You're reading too far into it. By the technical merits of the issue, the suit would be valid. By the particular issue the woman is basing the case on, it's frivolous.

 

[JEDIYoda]

HAHAHAHAAAA.......gotta love the internet..there is noway this is made up...is there?? rofl...hahahaaa....she a bigoted mother...rofl...hahahaaaaaaa

 

[steppinthrax]

I keep thinking about the effect this is going to have on the kid too. Somehow she's going to find out that she's a mistake in a very literal way. It's going to be hard to hide it living in a whole town full of white people who basically know her story. One day she's going to find out that her parents sued a company because she wasn't what they asked for. That she was the "wrong" kind of baby. What kind of resentment is that going to engender in her? This is truly a fuckup that could span generations.

Same thing happens when hospitals switch kids at birth. Later to find they have the wrong kid. One parent sues to get their kid back. While this 7 or 8 yo is troubled thinking do these parents really love me?

 

[BoomerD]

If the child has a white Mom then he's white.

End of story.

Case closed.

Racism not found.

\thread

Sorry...the "one drop" rule always applies.

 

[SKORPI0]

Looks like there is a forum regarding sperm donating and that bank. Donor#330 was in demand since 2009.

 

[alkemyst]

This kind of intolerance is retarded.

Talk about a screw up on the sperm bank's part.

 

[boomerang]

If the child has a white Mom then he's white.

Tell that to Obama.

 

[Strk]

I'd put it under ethnicity in that case. Also, isn't it the mother that determines whether you're jewish or not?

Yeah, according to Judaic Law/Old Testament

I think checking religion is kind of dumb, but if they're going to do that, they may want to provide a lot more information though since the presence of genetic disease increases a bit. Tay-sachs among Ashkenazi Jews comes to mind.

 

[DCal430]

Lol they are worried about racism, they live in an area that condemns their "lifestyle".

 

[xaeniac]

that's racist!

 

[mizzou]

I often feel that adopting black children from white couples is inherently racist....to an extent. This is just based on my observations of those whites who actually have adopted a black child.

#1, you have the benevolent white couple who wants to cradle a poor disenfranchised black child and conquer the racist divide

#2, you have the white couple who desperately wants to be accepted into black culture or anything except white culture.

#3, you have the couple who desperately want to experience the "struggle" it is to raise a young black child in the country.



and less common, I guess you have a parent who is like "Hey this kid is funny, outgoing, and really cute! Plus I think his/her personality is a great fit for us. We will take this child regardless of color!"

I don't know how people adopt infants...that seems so risky :\ I openly admit I'm not strong enough to get involved in foster care...it is often SOOOO much drama.

 

[arkcom]

I often feel that adopting black children from white couples is inherently racist....to an extent. This is just based on my observations of those whites who actually have adopted a black child.

I'd say most are desperate to adopt a child, any child, and the race of said child just doesn't matter.

 

[alkemyst]

I often feel that adopting black children from white couples is inherently racist....to an extent. This is just based on my observations of those whites who actually have adopted a black child.

#1, you have the benevolent white couple who wants to cradle a poor disenfranchised black child and conquer the racist divide

#2, you have the white couple who desperately wants to be accepted into black culture or anything except white culture.

#3, you have the couple who desperately want to experience the "struggle" it is to raise a young black child in the country.



and less common, I guess you have a parent who is like "Hey this kid is funny, outgoing, and really cute! Plus I think his/her personality is a great fit for us. We will take this child regardless of color!"

I don't know how people adopt infants...that seems so risky :\ I openly admit I'm not strong enough to get involved in foster care...it is often SOOOO much drama.

dafuq?

 

[Red Squirrel]

lol this sounds like someone getting the wrong color car that they ordered or something. "But I ordered it in white, and you gave me one in black! I want my money back!"

 

[mizzou]

dafuq?

If you really want to boil down my argument, I suppose any time we refer to anything by race we are being inherently racist.


If you request only black children (or white for that matter) or if you only see yourself adopting a black child....I would say there is some racist grounding to that.

Just because it's in a positive way, "I can't wait to adopt a black child!", doesn't mean it's not racist. It feels to me as some sort of racism a'la benevolent southern slave owner.

Keep in mind, I guess this is off topic and nothing to do with original post

 

[alkemyst]

If you really want to boil down my argument, I suppose any time we refer to anything by race we are being inherently racist.


If you request only black children (or white for that matter) or if you only see yourself adopting a black child....I would say there is some racist grounding to that.

Just because it's in a positive way, "I can't wait to adopt a black child!", doesn't mean it's not racist. It feels to me as some sort of racism a'la benevolent southern slave owner.

Keep in mind, I guess this is off topic and nothing to do with original post

I don't think you understand the way adoption works at all.

 

[mizzou]

I don't think you understand the way adoption works at all.

I admit I do not!

I figured it was a difficult process overall...but if you really wanted a specific race you wouldn't have any additional barriers to that. I.E. foreign nation adoption, etc.