Red Dawn
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That was under Raygun. He made up for it though by invading Greneda.Were the 243 marines killed in Lebanon killed by Reagan's policies or was it Carter?
That was under Raygun. He made up for it though by invading Greneda.Were the 243 marines killed in Lebanon killed by Reagan's policies or was it Carter?
Interesting that the military under clinton was about 1/2 the size of the reagan military...
1.82 million(1988) to 1.17 million(1998) Clinton left it at about 64% of Reagan's size. I consider that quite a significant drop. Enlisted Reserves also dropped about a quater million during the same time frame- from 988K to 745K.
He did what every President has done since WWII: run away when things get difficult.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That was under Raygun. He made up for it though by invading Greneda.Were the 243 marines killed in Lebanon killed by Reagan's policies or was it Carter?
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Ferocious
I wonder what percentage of the dead are from the upper class?
Or even upper middle class?
Why?
CkG
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Interesting that the military under clinton was about 1/2 the size of the reagan military...
1.82 million(1988) to 1.17 million(1998) Clinton left it at about 64% of Reagan's size. I consider that quite a significant drop. Enlisted Reserves also dropped about a quater million during the same time frame- from 988K to 745K.
So let me guess . . . if you round 1.82+0.988 up to 3.0 and round 1.17+0.745 down to 1.5 . . . I guess that's half . . . no wonder the GOP cannot balance a budget.
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: Vespasian
I just wanted to demonstrate that the U.S. military is probably the most representative institution in the country. But I forgot that most of the people who post in this forum are hateful ideologues.
And I just wanted to represent that the poster above was misconstruing the facts when suggesting the "white" "race" was doing more than their part when in fact as a percentage they are under represented in being killed by Bush's policies in Iraq.
But I forgot that some of the people who post in this forum are hateful reactionaries.
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Maybe. But since the topic compares the percentages of "races" killed by Bush's policies in Iraq, and some people here are trying to suggest some "races" are sacrificing more than others, it's important to compare the percentages in the subject line against percentages in American society.
But what's the overall ethnicity breakdown for soldiers on active duty? If the population of soldiers as a whole breaks down along roughly the same percentages, this isn't an issue. I don't think the enemy discriminates by race when shooting at Americans.
you don't know how to normalize a statistic properly, do you?Originally posted by: BOBDN
So I Googled figures for the percentage of "races" which make up the total US population to show that in truth the "white" race is under represented in combat deaths so far in Iraq. That's what it has to do with the percentages in society as a whole.
Bush's policies have everything to do with this because if he hadn't lied to the American people and allowed the UN inspectors to continue their inspections there is a very good chance those dead US troops would still be alive.
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: Vespasian
I just wanted to demonstrate that the U.S. military is probably the most representative institution in the country. But I forgot that most of the people who post in this forum are hateful ideologues.
And I just wanted to represent that the poster above was misconstruing the facts when suggesting the "white" "race" was doing more than their part when in fact as a percentage they are under represented in being killed by Bush's policies in Iraq.
But I forgot that some of the people who post in this forum are hateful reactionaries.
no one above did that expect for one facetious comment: "You gotta admire us crackers. We're dumb enough to keep on rushing in where others fear to tread."
seems like you're jumping at shadows
Dude . . . it's your commentary . . . feel free to repeat what someone else says and then get defensive when it's clear your facts an inakurit (Bush speak).First off it is about 1/2 and I said about 1/2 because I did not have the numbers in front of me. Next time I will make sure to post an answer that would satisify any six sigma guru.
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Dude . . . it's your commentary . . . feel free to repeat what someone else says and then get defensive when it's clear your facts an inakurit (Bush speak).First off it is about 1/2 and I said about 1/2 because I did not have the numbers in front of me. Next time I will make sure to post an answer that would satisify any six sigma guru.
1) If you lop off the least significant digit you get 1.9/2.9 which is 66% or 2/3 for all military personnel active + reserve.
2) If you just do active you get 64% . . . hmmm . . . that's real close to 50%.
3) If you just do reserves you get a whopping 75% . . . or 3/4.
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
One of my brothers was a Pershing Missile crewman in the late 80s - early 90s and another was a Marine. They both left after 8 years or so . . . which means Clinton's policies produced a 100% reduction in my families military commitment compared to Reagan.
White - 67%; Black - 16%; Hispanic - 13%; Asian - 2%