Which would garner more of your time, an intellect or athlete?

James3shin

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Lets say you had the opportunity to meet either MJ (or any other athlete of your choice) or Stephen Hawking (or any intellect of your choice), which would you pick? I personally feel that most super star athletes are one in a billion, whereas geniuses are one in a million. I'd go chill with MJ.
 

Vertimus

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Originally posted by: James3shin
Lets say you had the opportunity to meet either MJ (or any other athlete of your choice) or Stephen Hawking (or any intellect of your choice), which would you pick? I personally feel that most super star athletes are one in a billion, whereas geniuses are one in a million. I'd go chill with MJ.

I'll bet you know more than 6 athletes and can't name 6000 intellectuals.
 

Balt

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Anything Stephen Hawking had to say would probably be over the heads of 99.9% of the population (including me), so I don't think I would get much of out talking with him. :p
 

Ika

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I'd like to talk with someone like Richard Feinmann or so, but I'm not sure how long I could carry on a conversation with him.
 

James3shin

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Originally posted by: Vertimus
Originally posted by: James3shin
Lets say you had the opportunity to meet either MJ (or any other athlete of your choice) or Stephen Hawking (or any intellect of your choice), which would you pick? I personally feel that most super star athletes are one in a billion, whereas geniuses are one in a million. I'd go chill with MJ.

I'll bet you know more than 6 athletes and can't name 6000 intellectuals.

There are plenty of highly intelligent people at my university. I work with them day in, day out when I do my research work. It's just that some are more famous then others. Now when you look at an exceptional athlete like Kobe, they are actually leaps and bounds ahead of the rest. In short, I guess I'm saying Stephen Hawking is extremely intelligent, but is he "leaps and bounds" ahead of other intellects?
 

Atheus

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What would you say to an athlete past "man, you were great in that thing... that time".

Originally posted by: James3shin
I personally feel that most super star athletes are one in a billion, whereas geniuses are one in a million.

I'd say exactly the opposite - there are great athletes in most pro sports teams.

Originally posted by: Balt
Anything Stephen Hawking had to say would probably be over the heads of 99.9% of the population (including me), so I don't think I would get much of out talking with him. :p

I'm sure he could talk on your level.
 

Falloutboy

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Originally posted by: Atheus
I'm sure he could talk on your level.


actually i would be suprised if he could well. alot of people that smart have a hard time relating to people in lamens terms. exspecially people at that level of genius
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: Vertimus
There are plenty of highly intelligent people at my university. I work with them day in, day out when I do my research work. It's just that some are more famous then others. Now when you look at an exceptional athlete like Kobe, they are actually leaps and bounds ahead of the rest. In short, I guess I'm saying Stephen Hawking is extremely intelligent, but is he "leaps and bounds" ahead of other intellects?

I doubt this guy you speak of (I assume he's in American sport and therefore I've never heard of him) is twice as fast or twice as strong as everyone else, just as Steven Hawking isn't twice as smart as anyone else, if you could even measure that.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: Falloutboy
Originally posted by: Atheus
I'm sure he could talk on your level.


actually i would be suprised if he could well. alot of people that smart have a hard time relating to people in lamens terms. exspecially people at that level of genius

I reckon that's a load of rubbish. If you ask an extremely intelligent person a question about their field, no matter how simple, they are usually very keen to answer it.

Have you seen Hawking in documentaries or read his books? They are aimed at normal people who have no physics education past high school and are extremely accessible.
 

xtknight

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Easily an intellect. I would not be able to relate to an athlete other than the fact I work out once in a while. No sports though.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Falloutboy
Originally posted by: Atheus
I'm sure he could talk on your level.


actually i would be suprised if he could well. alot of people that smart have a hard time relating to people in lamens terms. exspecially people at that level of genius

I reckon that's a load of rubbish. If you ask an extremely intelligent person a question about their field, no matter how simple, they are usually very keen to answer it.

Have you seen Hawking in documentaries or read his books? They are aimed at normal people who have no physics education past high school and are extremely accessible.

He probably means they delved deep into their subject sacrificing some social aptitude in the process. He could describe his own subject a lot, but probably could not talk to a group of people real well if they were not interested in his subject.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Falloutboy
Originally posted by: Atheus
I'm sure he could talk on your level.


actually i would be suprised if he could well. alot of people that smart have a hard time relating to people in lamens terms. exspecially people at that level of genius

Guess you haven't read his books?

Does a really good job.
 

chrisms

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I'd probably meet Ernest Hemingway and see if I could drink him under the table.
 

sonoma1993

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I'd want to talk to someone that in intellect. I probably choose someone that in the world history field, or ancient Greece and Roman history, or somethen.
 

James3shin

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Actually Atheus, I would have to say that Kobe Bryant, the star point guard for the Los Angeles Lakers is quantitatively three, maybe four times better then his colleagues. If I recall Atheus, you are from England, correct? To put it into terms of athletes someone from across the pond could understand, assuming you watch football (soccer), wouldn't you say that Wayne Rooney or Thiery Henry are leaps and bounds ahead of their teammates? In fact, I'd say Henry is leaps ahead of Rooney.
 

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Originally posted by: Aflac
I'd like to talk with someone like Richard Feinmann or so, but I'm not sure how long I could carry on a conversation with him.

If he is anything like Feynman, I bet he'd be loads of fun!
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: James3shin
Actually Atheus, I would have to say that Kobe Bryant, the star point guard for the Los Angeles Lakers is quantitatively three, maybe four times better then his colleagues. If I recall Atheus, you are from England, correct? To put it into terms of athletes someone from across the pond could understand, assuming you watch football (soccer), wouldn't you say that Wayne Rooney or Thiery Henry are leaps and bounds ahead of their teammates? In fact, I'd say Henry is leaps ahead of Rooney.

They're not _twice_ as good though right? They don't score twice as many goals as the primary striker in other premiership teams...

How would you quantify Kobe's ability?

An easy one is running - if there's half a second between the first and second place in 100 meters, that's a lot! Twice as fast would be impossible.
 

James3shin

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: James3shin
Actually Atheus, I would have to say that Kobe Bryant, the star point guard for the Los Angeles Lakers is quantitatively three, maybe four times better then his colleagues. If I recall Atheus, you are from England, correct? To put it into terms of athletes someone from across the pond could understand, assuming you watch football (soccer), wouldn't you say that Wayne Rooney or Thiery Henry are leaps and bounds ahead of their teammates? In fact, I'd say Henry is leaps ahead of Rooney.

They're not _twice_ as good though right? They don't score twice as many goals as the primary striker in other premiership teams...

How would you quantify Kobe's ability?

An easy one is running - if there's half a second between the first and second place in 100 meters, that's a lot! Twice as fast would be impossible.

I based Kobe's quantitative comparison based on Pts scored per game (Kobe averaged 35.4) whereas his teammates contibutes maybe 10, sometimes 20 if they are having a good night. To put it into Premiership terms, wouldn't you say that the abilities possessed by Henry, Rooney, Drogba and co are far above their teammates? Looking at the list of Top Scorers, the deviation is very small but when I watch some of the aforementioned players, they are noticeably better then the majority of the players on the pitch.
 

SpecialEd

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Originally posted by: James3shin
Lets say you had the opportunity to meet either MJ (or any other athlete of your choice) or Stephen Hawking (or any intellect of your choice), which would you pick? I personally feel that most super star athletes are one in a billion, whereas geniuses are one in a million. I'd go chill with MJ.

If super star athletes are one in a billion, that would mean there are less than 7 in the entire world.
 

monk3y

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To be honest I don't think I'd be able to communicate well with a true intellect.
 

IronWing

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I'd rather play basketball against Stephen Hawking than against MJ. I'd kick his ass.