Which way did our soldiers vote?

aswedc

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Given that previous poll that said 3/4th supported Bush, there is almost no question the final tally will show the military in support of the President IMO...
 
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Originally posted by: aswedc
Given that previous poll that said 3/4th supported Bush, there is almost no question the final tally will show the military in support of the President IMO...

I'd agree with that, and I'm a military member who voted for Kerry. I know many others who did as well, but there's no question the majority of military members are politically conservative, and support the President.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: aswedc
Given that previous poll that said 3/4th supported Bush, there is almost no question the final tally will show the military in support of the President IMO...
I "support" Bush (or whoever the CiC is) but didn't vote for him
Originally posted by: flawlssdistortn
Well, any soldier that voted Kerry has just put himself in a weird situation mentally.
Funny...I feel alright so far :)
 

flawlssdistortn

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: aswedc
Given that previous poll that said 3/4th supported Bush, there is almost no question the final tally will show the military in support of the President IMO...
I "support" Bush (or whoever the CiC is) but didn't vote for him
Originally posted by: flawlssdistortn
Well, any soldier that voted Kerry has just put himself in a weird situation mentally.
Funny...I feel alright so far :)

OK, there ya go. Anyway, it's not really a soldier's job to be to critical or thoughtful. (I'm not saying this in a disrespectful way.)
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: flawlssdistortn
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: aswedc
Given that previous poll that said 3/4th supported Bush, there is almost no question the final tally will show the military in support of the President IMO...
I "support" Bush (or whoever the CiC is) but didn't vote for him
Originally posted by: flawlssdistortn
Well, any soldier that voted Kerry has just put himself in a weird situation mentally.
Funny...I feel alright so far :)
OK, there ya go. Anyway, it's not really a soldier's job to be to critical or thoughtful. (I'm not saying this in a disrespectful way.)
Nah, I understand...as long as you're limiting it to politics. I'd point out that it's not a doctor or teacher's job to be critical or thoughtful re: politics, but rather to cure and teach, respectively.

I get the gist of what you're trying to say, though. You can't really use what soldiers feel as an indication of what's "right" or "wrong" re: foreign policy. Being a soldier isn't a license to say whatever you want and have it be meaningful. And not being a soldier doesn't rob you of the right to comment on how the military should be used.

I personally try to vote as if I were a private citizen and suspect most other soldiers do the same--at least subconsciously. As such, soldiers' votes probably have more to do with where they came from or from the values they held before joining the military rather than from any indoctrination (read "brainwashing" :)) within the ranks.

As I earned my commission from Berkeley, you can guess how I voted ;)
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: ntdz
They should have gone to bush by something like 70-80%...
Define "should"

BTW, let me CMA by saying that my views in no way represent those of my employer...
 

wkabel23

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Would anyone happen to have any data comparing the vote of the military in past elections vs. this election?

I'm sure it's interesting.
 

flawlssdistortn

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I get the gist of what you're trying to say, though. You can't really use what soldiers feel as an indication of what's "right" or "wrong" re: foreign policy. Being a soldier isn't a license to say whatever you want and have it be meaningful. And not being a soldier doesn't rob you of the right to comment on how the military should be used.

I personally try to vote as if I were a private citizen and suspect most other soldiers do the same--at least subconsciously. As such, soldiers' votes probably have more to do with where they came from or from the values they held before joining the military rather than from any indoctrination (read "brainwashing" :)) within the ranks.

As I earned my commission from Berkeley, you can guess how I voted ;)

Good answer :) And may I ask if you think it was out of line for Kerry to criticize the Vietnam war in the way he did?
 

BarneyFife

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Good news. This means that they are more dumb than I thought. Have fun in Iraq defending Arabs from other Arabs.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: aswedc
Given that previous poll that said 3/4th supported Bush, there is almost no question the final tally will show the military in support of the President IMO...

I'd agree with that, and I'm a military member who voted for Kerry. I know many others who did as well, but there's no question the majority of military members are politically conservative, and support the President.

Thank you for admitting that.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Good news. This means that they are more dumb than I thought. Have fun in Iraq defending Arabs from other Arabs.

Why don't you go tell them that!
 

b0mbrman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: flawlssdistortn
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I get the gist of what you're trying to say, though. You can't really use what soldiers feel as an indication of what's "right" or "wrong" re: foreign policy. Being a soldier isn't a license to say whatever you want and have it be meaningful. And not being a soldier doesn't rob you of the right to comment on how the military should be used.

I personally try to vote as if I were a private citizen and suspect most other soldiers do the same--at least subconsciously. As such, soldiers' votes probably have more to do with where they came from or from the values they held before joining the military rather than from any indoctrination (read "brainwashing" :)) within the ranks.

As I earned my commission from Berkeley, you can guess how I voted ;)

Good answer :) And may I ask if you think it was out of line for Kerry to criticize the Vietnam war in the way he did?
I'm probably the wrong one to ask...

He definitely had the right to say what he did, and if I were another vet at that time, I can imagine agreeing with a lot of what he said. Now, if I were still in the thick of it all, I might tend toward being more angry...

Still, as long as he made it clear that his views were his and his alone...and the public understood that his opinions weren't representative of the entire force, I don't think I'd have a problem with it.
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Good news. This means that they are more dumb than I thought. Have fun in Iraq defending Arabs from other Arabs.
We're way dumber than you thought...
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: aswedc
Given that previous poll that said 3/4th supported Bush, there is almost no question the final tally will show the military in support of the President IMO...

i also heard this is significantly lower then any other president in history ... not exactly sure one would think 'nam would have been bad... not sure