Discussion Which was worse, the riots in July or the Riot in January?

[FelixDeCat]

They were both equally bad because they were both made worse by professional agitators. Its weird though because even though statues were torn down, cities burned and people killed earlier last year it just did not hit home until they actually invaded public buildings at the behest of the president.

But trust me, these agitators who pretend to be partisan and want nothing but anarchy (no government at all, i.e. anarchists) have not gone away. They blend in and escalate.

Sadly, we are going to see more.

 

[MrSquished]

They were both equally bad because they were both made worse by professional agitators. Its weird though because even though statues were torn down, cities burned and people killed earlier last year it just did not hit home until they actually invaded public buildings at the behest of the president.

But trust me, these agitators who pretend to be partisan and want nothing but anarchy (no government at all, i.e. anarchists) have not gone away. They blend in and escalate.

Sadly, we are going to see more.

Nice try, actually not really, but such a load of bullshit. Trying to compare an entire base of a political party led by the president himself and many of his surrogates to total opportunists, or simply anarchists, with no political loyalty to the other political party nor encouraged by any of their politicians.

Not even in the same category. Face it, your Trumper movement is vile.

 

[BudAshes]

What if I liked all the riots equally?

 

[FelixDeCat]

Nice try, actually not really, but such a load of bullshit. Trying to compare an entire base of a political party led by the president himself and many of his surrogates to total opportunists, or simply anarchists, with no political loyalty to the other political party nor encouraged by any of their politicians.

Not even in the same category. Face it, your Trumper movement is vile.

You are falling for it. Applying a particular bias and assuming a particular set of circumstances either left or right while ignoring the anarchists responsible in both sets of riots.

Look beyond your bias.

 

[FelixDeCat]

What if I liked all the riots equally?

Then you are weird.

 

[13Gigatons]

For me personally the July Riots were far worse. They looted and burned all my neighborhood stores.

They even defiled Microcenter....just UNFORGIVABLE!!!

 

[IronWing]

They were both equally bad because they were both made worse by professional agitators. Its weird though because even though statues were torn down, cities burned and people killed earlier last year it just did not hit home until they actually invaded public buildings at the behest of the president.

But trust me, these agitators who pretend to be partisan and want nothing but anarchy (no government at all, i.e. anarchists) have not gone away. They blend in and escalate.

Sadly, we are going to see more.

You are falling for it. Applying a particular bias and assuming a particular set of circumstances either left or right while ignoring the anarchists responsible in both sets of riots.

Look beyond your bias.

Six Republican state legislators participated in the insurrection at the capitol. While Republican traitors attacked the seat of our Republic from the outside, one hundred forty Republican house members and six Republican Senators attacked the heart of our Republic from the inside. This was sedition on the part of the Republican Party and you have spent your life supporting and defending that party and the degenerate ideology that drives it. So fuck off traitor.

 

[snoopy7548]

January, hands down. And it wasn't a riot, it was an insurrection.

 

[Grey_Beard]

January. It was a showing of privilege. None of these folks had generations of systemic oppression. Then there was the reaction of the police. Very different in January.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Nice try, actually not really, but such a load of bullshit. Trying to compare an entire base of a political party led by the president himself and many of his surrogates to total opportunists, or simply anarchists, with no political loyalty to the other political party nor encouraged by any of their politicians.

Not even in the same category. Face it, your Trumper movement is vile.

January. It was a showing of privilege. None of these folks had generations of systemic oppression. Then there was the reaction of the police. Very different in January.

I'm confused. You guys recall it was the police rioting back in the summer, right? Black people protested and police rioted in response.

Frankly there really isn't much difference in the situations, in both instances it was white supremacists pushing for violence and doing the agitating then trying to claim it was other people (the vague shadowy Soros Antifas) doing it. Will be interesting to find out how many of the police doing the rioting back in the summer showed up in the Capitol.

We should start referring to them as the Prolapsers.

 

[nutxo]

I kinda think the first ones because of the destruction and the losses small businesses suffered BUT I do think both were wrong. I also think the ones in DC were a kinda " You reap what you sow" thing.

 

[MrSquished]

I kinda think the first ones because of the destruction and the losses small businesses suffered BUT I do think both were wrong. I also think the ones in DC were a kinda " You reap what you sow" thing.

Who sowed what exactly to deserve the assault on the Capitol?

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'd say the July ones just because it was much more widespread and more damaging to private property. They were somewhat more justified though, but as far as damage goes it was much worse. Have to consider that the white house one could have been MUCH worse. They could have completely ransacked the place, spray paint the walls, smash everything etc and while they did do some damage it was somewhat minimal considering what they actually could have done. Lot of goofing around like taking pics on officials' desks etc but they could have completely trashed those offices and they didn't. Not saying what they did is right though, just saying it could have been much worse.

I think when it comes to these sort of protests you always have the extremists that join in just because they want to cause more trouble too. The whitehouse one actually had some Canadians.

 

[MrSquished]

I'd say the July ones just because it was much more widespread and more damaging to private property. They were somewhat more justified though, but as far as damage goes it was much worse. Have to consider that the white house one could have been MUCH worse. They could have completely ransacked the place, spray paint the walls, smash everything etc and while they did do some damage it was somewhat minimal considering what they actually could have done. Lot of goofing around like taking pics on officials' desks etc but they could have completely trashed those offices and they didn't. Not saying what they did is right though, just saying it could have been much worse.

I think when it comes to these sort of protests you always have the extremists that join in just because they want to cause more trouble too. The whitehouse one actually had some Canadians.

You need to see the forest through the trees. Damage to democracy is far worse than property damage. Also, it's not right to associate all the damage from last July to an actual justified movement against actual systemic racial oppression. The vast majority of protestors were peaceful and the vast majority of looters were just asshole opportunists hijacking that legitimate movement.

Last summer's protests were at least based on reality, actual systemic oppression, whereas Wednesday's events are based on believing in a total alternate reality, which is far more dangerous. And again, the looting wasn't organized by those organizing the protests.

Also, Wednesday's assault was inspired by the most powerful and influential man in the world and his surrogates. Who inspired the looting last July? There were no calls by any blm organization to cause destruction. No ringleaders. Nor from any Democratic politicians. Wednesday's assault even had Republican officials in it. Another big difference.

Wednesday's fascists are far far far worse than anything that happened last year. The only reason shit isn't as bad yet is because these fascists are like their cult leader Trump - good at being shithead scumbag rabble rousers and bad at executing things.

 

[BudAshes]

The fact that nobody took dump on anyone's desk definitely knocked a few points off the most recent ones.

 

[Grey_Beard]

I'm confused. You guys recall it was the police rioting back in the summer, right? Black people protested and police rioted in response.

Frankly there really isn't much difference in the situations, in both instances it was white supremacists pushing for violence and doing the agitating then trying to claim it was other people (the vague shadowy Soros Antifas) doing it. Will be interesting to find out how many of the police doing the rioting back in the summer showed up in the Capitol.

We should start referring to them as the Prolapsers.

Hence why I mentioned the different police reaction.

Don’t you know the police this summer we’re provoked by people with their hands up.

 

[nutxo]

That's a fucking lie. Shit was fucking burning and people were shooting cops in their cars. Peaceful protestors in Portland were murdering people in the fucking streets and idiots like the mayor of Seattle was calling it the "summer of love".

Plain and simple. If you don't live in Seattle you have no opinion. You didn't fucking see it. All you saw was talking heads spewing their biased shit and the sheep lapping it up like it was mana from heaven.

 

[ondma]

That's a fucking lie. Shit was fucking burning and people were shooting cops in their cars. Peaceful protestors in Portland were murdering people in the fucking streets and idiots like the mayor of Seattle was calling it the "summer of love".

Plain and simple. If you don't live in Seattle you have no opinion. You didn't fucking see it. All you saw was talking heads spewing their biased shit and the sheep lapping it up like it was mana from heaven.

What is the flavor of that kool aid you have been drinking?
You do know also that an unarmed black man was choked out for ~9 minutes in the streets of Minneapolis and a paramedic was shot multiple times in her own home, right?

 

[Ajay]

This is outrageous! A poal in ATOT without a third option. The OP should be burned at the stake

My vote: January riots of 532 AD.

 

[brianmanahan]

This is outrageous! A poal in ATOT without a third option. The OP should be burned at the stake

My vote: January riots of 532 AD.

polls always need a comedy option. everyone knows this.

30k dead in the nika riots of 532 is pretty serious

but i think the partition riots between pakistan and india is the worst of all time. between 200k and 2 million dead.

 

[shortylickens]

That's a fucking lie. Shit was fucking burning and people were shooting cops in their cars. Peaceful protestors in Portland were murdering people in the fucking streets and idiots like the mayor of Seattle was calling it the "summer of love".

Plain and simple. If you don't live in Seattle you have no opinion. You didn't fucking see it. All you saw was talking heads spewing their biased shit and the sheep lapping it up like it was mana from heaven.

Cops were shooting and beating people who were not violent. And that's the problem. That's what people all over America have been protesting for years. Police that go fuckin overboad with peaceful demonstators and let armed nutjobs walk all over them.

 

[balloonshark]

Let's see. The capitol building is the heart of democracy. It was occupied by our elected officials. Some of them we like and some of them not so much. I might not agree with many of them but if a single hair on any of their fly nesting heads was harmed we would be in a civil war right now IMHO. The crowd was literally chanting about hanging Pence. That is not how we agreed to do things in this country.

 

[MrSquished]

That's a fucking lie. Shit was fucking burning and people were shooting cops in their cars. Peaceful protestors in Portland were murdering people in the fucking streets and idiots like the mayor of Seattle was calling it the "summer of love".

Plain and simple. If you don't live in Seattle you have no opinion. You didn't fucking see it. All you saw was talking heads spewing their biased shit and the sheep lapping it up like it was mana from heaven.

The only cops shot and killed during protests were by right wing boogaloo members in california and another shot and injured by a right wing white supremacist felon. The cop in Seattle was killed by friendly fire and it had nothing to do with BLM anyways.

Bothell police officer killed by friendly fire; prosecutors charge man accused of starting gunfight with murder

King County prosecutors have charged 37-year-old Henry Eugene Washington with aggravated first-degree murder in the shooting death of Bothell police Officer Jonathan Shoop. Shoop, caught in the crossfire between Washington and another officer, was killed by one of the officer's...

www.seattletimes.com

The right wing continues it's murder of police in the assault on the Capitol, killing an officer with blows to the head.

The Portland fire chief had to come out and say that Portland was not on fire to contradict our very own fascistic president. Literally one fire event that needed one fire engine and no buildings burned to the ground, meanwhile what were the president's words? "Portland is ablaze". And morons not only believe it, but regurgitate it.

Fact check: 'WE ARE NOT ABLAZE,' Portland fire department says after Trump falsely claims 'entire city' is on fire | CNN Politics

Portland's fire department has a message for President Donald Trump: the whole city is not on fire.

www.cnn.com

You drink the right wing Kool aid and are this a big part of the problem in this country why shit like this past Wednesday went down. The real facts are out there but you choose to ignore then, so things like this that happen are your fault. You pass along propaganda, which incites these things. It's a big problem.

As far as Seattle goes, some shit got out of control, on both sides. The cops, as usual, acting like thugs during some protests, and the CHOP zone, which was condemned by BLM leaders. It wasn't organized or promoted by Joe Biden, or Kamala, or Pelosi or their surrogates, like the Trump and his surrogate propaganda train have been doing.

Black Lives Matter protesters say Seattle’s autonomous zone has hijacked message

Protesters inside the self-declared autonomous zone in downtown Seattle booed and heckled members of the African American Community Advisory Council Thursday night as the group told demonstrators they had "hijacked" the message of Black Lives Matter.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Ajay]

polls always need a comedy option. everyone knows this.

30k dead in the nika riots of 532 is pretty serious

but i think the partition riots between pakistan and india is the worst of all time. between 200k and 2 million dead.

Hey, that's a fine piece of one-upmanship! Jerk

 

[Lanyap]

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