Which Tyan for dual PIII setup?

[hajami]

I am trying to decide on which board to get for a dual PIII setup. The two choices are the Tyan Tiger 100 and the Tiger 133.
I'm not sure how good the VIA Apollo 133 chipset is compared to the Intel 440BX. Which one would be a better board to go with?

 

[Atomics]

Yeah, that is the exact same question I wanted to ask. Anyone who can help us out, thanks!

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger133_p.html

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger100_p.html

The Tiger 133 is about $10 cheaper that I have found. I am especially wondering about overclocking a couple 700s in either of these. I'm guessing it cant be done in the Tiger 100.

EDIT Found several threads at different sites with good info:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=194569
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=195338
http://2cpu.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000650.html
http://2cpu.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000570.html <-- Good technical thread



Also, apparently there is a deal on the Tiger 133 model with the VIA chipset at Onvia.com - http://www.onvia.com/usa/products/index.cfm?Task=ViewProduct&amp;SearchText=tyan&amp;IdCatalog=2485522 I'm sure there are some coupon codes to make this an even better deal.

 

[Ulysses]

http://www.2cpu.com/

http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentiumiii/intnotes.htm#7

http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentiumiii/tti005.htm

 

[z]

The Tiger 100 is a far more stable board than the Tiger 133, and the BX chipset reliably outperforms the VIA Apollo Pro 133A. (See AnandTech's own articles on this point.) The fact that the Tiger 100 is far more popular than the Tiger 133 over at http://2cpu.com (especially among their experienced users and their moderators) should also tell you a lot; see 2cpu.com's review of both boards on their site. Yes, you can overclock 700E's in the Tiger 100. The main disadvantages of the Tiger 100 are the following:

1. No native ATA/66 support. (But you can add a Promise Ultra 66 for about $25.)
2. AGP is 2x max. (Not a big difference in actual use.)
3. There is no 1/2 AGP divider, so if you run at 133 FSB, your video card has to handle being overclocked. This isn't a problem for most newer video cards; see AnandTech's &quot;BX 133 Video Guide&quot; for more info.
4. The &quot;EB&quot; Coppermines aren't supported on this board, which I verified the hard way. (But you can overclock other Coppermines up to a 133 MHz FSB if they can handle it.)
5. Memory speed is always the same as FSB speed.

Unless any of these is a show stopper for you, I'd go with the Tiger 100.

 

[dakost]

Are you going to use slot 1 or flip chip ? If you use flip chip, read Anands review for the MSI 694D Via apollo 133a dual board. There is another review for it here ...
http://www.hardwarezone.com

 

[hajami]

Thanks for all the help.

Looks like the Tiger 100 will be the new board.

 

[StuckMojo]

I would take some of these comments with a grain of salt.....Especially regarding the stability of the Tiger 133A, I see that no one posted in here that they have either Tyan board. Here is a review from someone who ran extensive stability tests: http://www.2cpu.com/Hardware/tiger133/tiger133_p2.html

Speaking from experience, if you go with the FCPGA chip, GET the ABIT SLOCKET....I could not get the MSI 6905 to work in dual mode with the Tyan 133A.

 

[StuckMojo]

Go with the Tiger 133A if you plan to overclock PIII 700's as the VIA chipset supports the 133mhz FSB that you will be using to run at 900mhz.

 

[z]

Actually, the stability tests referred to by StuckMojo weren't all that extensive. Specifically, they didn't test running the Tiger 133 at a 133 FSB at all. A number of people have encountered problems only at that bus speed.