Which to upgrade to, Celeron 700, or PIII 700?

[NaughtyusMaximus]

I'm running a Celeron 333@450 right now, and am thinking of upgrading. What would be the most sensible upgrade path for me? a Celeron 700 costs $300 (final), and a PIII700 is ~$390 (final). I will need a sloket as well as a new heatsink/fan combo as well. I want to know which would be able to overclock to a higher speed (I would guess the Celeron since its only running on a 66Mhz bus origonally), and at that speed, will the Celeron still be as slow as my current 450Mhz compared to a PIII?

 

[EMAN]

um go with p3 700 you won't be dissapointed

 

[Viper GTS]

P3, definitely. I paid $300 US for my cb0 FC-PGA, & it's currently running nicely at 966/138. With my PEP66/Delta it does 1001, but I don't like the noise.

Before the P3 I had a Celeron 566 @ 952. It was pretty quick for the money, but I like the P3 much better. If I was going to get a Celeron, I'd get either a 566 or a 600. The multiplier on the 700 is WAY too high. (Unless that's a 100 MHz Celeron, but those aren't available yet, are they?) Celerons perform well with high FSB's, my 566 @ 952 was running at 112 MHz. The 700 is going to limit your FSB to around 95 - 100 MHz. The performance won't be as good as a 566 or 600 on a 112 FSB.

Viper GTS

 

[Rigoletto]

?! Forget about the celeron, overclocked or not! The Celeron 600@900 for instance, does scores what the original Athlons did at 600MHz. Huh!
PIII overpriced compared to Durons and Thunderbirds.

 

[NaughtyusMaximus]

Okay, I'll ditch the thought of the Celeron for sure then. I wasn't expecting it to be on my list, but then I saw the price difference, I had to consider it (my budget is about $400 max). As far as multipliers go, am I correct in thinking that the 7.0 of the 700 is going to be a better one for overclocking? Would I be able to get similar speeds out of a 600 or 650.

I'm guessing that these come with a fairly wimpy heatsink/fan on them. If I'm planning on overclocking, how much would I be looking at for a good hs?

 

[NaughtyusMaximus]

^

 

[SnoopyDog]

If you are going for the OC of a PIII chip ALLWAYS go for the "E" model, meaning the 100 Mhz. Trust me I have been there with a "EB" (133Mhz) chip in my hand and trust me it is not a pretty sight.

I went after a few tryies, direct back to the shop to claim, my still using 600e. By the way great chip.

LOL

Snoopy Dog

 

[Rand]

If your getting a Celery grab the 566 or 600MHz Celery, the multiplier on the 700MHz Celery makes overclocking too difficult. The Celeron might be able to clock a bit higher than the P3 700 but even at overclocked speeds it would barely be competitive against the P3 700 at it's rated clock speed.

For the extra $90 for the P3 you will be gaining much more speed than the Celery will be able to manage. I say go with the P3 definitely.

 

[Ultima200]

P3 definately. A 950 celery2 is the same as like a 650 athlon

 

[AngelOfDeath]

P3-700 that's the way to go...lots more power there

AoD

 

[masterskartrg]

cant argue with that PIII700e is probably best bang for the buck for the last 3-4months performace wise

 

[masterskartrg]

also i notice you said PII700 for 390bucks final your in canada so is that like around 200bucks im not that smart sorry cause i got mine PIII700 for 200bucks here 1month ago i assume now its probably $190 or so.

 

[Blayze]

I would go with the P3 700

 

[NaughtyusMaximus]

Thanks for all the replies. I'm definetly going to go with the PIII. I haven't found a better price anywhere yet, so this seems to be a good deal. I'm going to check to see if I can find out what stepping it is before I buy, and make sure that it is retail and not OEM.

Does anybody know about the HS/fan they come with?

--BTW, all the prices I listed were after 14% tax as well, so I guess the price is pretty good after the fact.

 

[NaughtyusMaximus]

Does anyone know when the next price drop will be, and by how much?