Which Symbol Caused Deaths of 90,000 Black Babies (It’s not a flag)

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Who da thunk? It seems logic escapes the meager liberal mind.

The Republitards' point sounds cute, but lacks substance.

Guess what group of people would have condemned tens of thousands of infants and adults to poverty as a result of unintended pregnancy?

The anti-abortion "rocket scientists".

Guess what group of people would increase government expenditures for welfare, housing for the poor, education for the poor, and criminal justice costs?

The anti-abortion "rocket scientists".

Guess what group of people want to put Big Government in your Bedroom?

The anti-abortion "rocket scientists".

Guess what group of people want to force Christian Sharia law on you?

The anti-abortion "rocket scientists".
 

Annisman*

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The Republitards' point sounds cute, but lacks substance.

Guess what group of people would have condemned tens of thousands of infants and adults to poverty as a result of unintended pregnancy?

The anti-abortion "rocket scientists".

Guess what group of people would increase government expenditures for welfare, housing for the poor, education for the poor, and criminal justice costs?

The anti-abortion "rocket scientists".

Guess what group of people want to put Big Government in your Bedroom?

The anti-abortion "rocket scientists".

Guess what group of people want to force Christian Sharia law on you?

The anti-abortion "rocket scientists".

I like how you think poverty is worse than a mother choosing to end the life of her future child. This is logic that simply cannot be defended. Which would you rather be ? In poverty ? Or dead ? You'd rather be dead right ? I mean gotta stand by your words bruh.
 

sandorski

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I like how you think poverty is worse than a mother choosing to end the life of her future child. This is logic that simply cannot be defended. Which would you rather be ? In poverty ? Or dead ? You'd rather be dead right ? I mean gotta stand by your words bruh.

When is the point the developing fetus gains the ability to choose?
 

nickqt

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I like how you think poverty is worse than a mother choosing to end the life of her future child. This is logic that simply cannot be defended. Which would you rather be ? In poverty ? Or dead ? You'd rather be dead right ? I mean gotta stand by your words bruh.
I guess we can just scoop the fetus on out at 20 weeks since it's officially a FutureChild™ at that point, and perhaps set it up with a job somewhere so it can pull itself up by its bootstraps.
 

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When is the point the developing fetus gains the ability to choose?

What's the difference between a fetus and a one year old in this regard? Neither possess the cognitive abilities to choose. Yet I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess the unborn would have no rights yet the one year old would as it relates to your question above.
 

nickqt

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What's the difference between a fetus and a one year old in this regard? Neither possess the cognitive abilities to choose. Yet I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess the unborn would have no rights yet the one year old would as it relates to your question above.
Should a pregnant woman who attempts suicide be charged with attempted murder?
 

nickqt

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Do you liberals ever stop to consider that maybe it's because it has no ability to choose that that's where much of the travesty lies ?
Do you conservatives ever stop to consider that it's not your body and that's 100% of where the actual decision lies?
 

sandorski

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What's the difference between a fetus and a one year old in this regard? Neither possess the cognitive abilities to choose. Yet I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess the unborn would have no rights yet the one year old would as it relates to your question above.

I'm not the one trying to conflate a grown Adult with a Fetus.
 

Murloc

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I knew it even before opening the thread.

Thanks to the internet I can grasp the mind of both the islamist conspiracist and the american conservative.
 

shira

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90 thousand? That's an extremely low number.

It's at least 1 thousand black babies... per day.
Or ~17 million since Roe V Wade. -source
And we all know that what principled Republicans actually want is 17 million more Democratic voters. :rolleyes:

Honestly, Republicans should be THE biggest supporters of abortion rights.
 
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Jaskalas

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And we all know that what principled Republicans actually want is 17 million more Democratic voters. :rolleyes:

That's why the Southern Border is secure. The last thing Republicans want are 10s of millions of poor people voting for Democrats. :rolleyes:
 

GodisanAtheist

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Thanks to abortion, I'm that much less likely to be killed by one of these (or any other) fatherless/broken children than if they were born only to have their lives intersect with mine or that of someone I love with tragic consequences.

Democrats/Liberals are packaging this all wrong: Conservatives soft on crime, want to release millions of high risk potential criminals into your neighborhoods!

(If you do not understand that the above post is tongue in cheek, please promptly abort yourself)
 

senseamp

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Republicans concerned about black babies dying by the tens of thousands can travel to volunteer or support increasing foreign aid to Africa, where that is currently happening on annual basis from Malaria, Tuberculosis, and HIV. But they don't, because they couldn't care less about dead black babies except for using them to further their own political agenda.
 
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Do you liberals ever stop to consider that maybe it's because it has no ability to choose that that's where much of the travesty lies ?

It's difficult to choose anything if you lack the mental capacity or consciousness to know that there is a choice to be made in the first place. There is no person inside of a fetus or embryo--it doesn't have a personality.
 
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Thanks to abortion, I'm that much less likely to be killed by one of these (or any other) fatherless/broken children than if they were born only to have their lives intersect with mine or that of someone I love with tragic consequences.

Democrats/Liberals are packaging this all wrong: Conservatives soft on crime, want to release millions of high risk potential criminals into your neighborhoods!

Consider the economic ramifications. Where is the money going to come from to support all of these children born into poverty? Where will the money come from for their housing, food, health care, education, and criminal justice costs?

The Republitards always talk about how government money shouldn't be spent on abortion and birth control. However, it produces a huge return-on-investment in terms of reducing the amount of government money that needs to be spent on other things in the future.

It would make the most economic sense for the government to offer free abortion and birth control. We should impose a special tax on devout Christians to pay for the costs of not having free abortion and birth control.
 

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And we all know that what principled Republicans actually want is 17 million more Democratic voters. :rolleyes:

Honestly, Republicans should be THE biggest supporters of abortion rights.

I never thought of it that way, but you are absolutely right.
 

Jeff7

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Had I been aborted as a fetus, I really wouldn't care in the slightest. I wouldn't have been upset that I never existed, because that which does not exist in the first place does not have the ability to have opinions. It's along the lines of dividing by zero.
That, and there are so goddamn many people on this planet already. We're doing what any other plant, animal, or bacteria does when most natural predators are eliminated, and when resources are plentiful: Explosively rapid reproduction with no regard for long-term stability of the population.

(Though I'd still prefer to see birth control used to prevent conception from occurring in the first place.)



What buggers my mind is you are against women having babies to get more welfare money and against women having abortions to live a better life.
They should just get better jobs then. Being poor is 100% a choice. Those born into poverty simply choose to remain there for life.
:sneaky:
 
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Annisman*

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It's difficult to choose anything if you lack the mental capacity or consciousness to know that there is a choice to be made in the first place. There is no person inside of a fetus or embryo--it doesn't have a personality.

My point was that out of the two parties only one of them is making the choice, the other is helpless to that decision, and many of us believe they are making a terrible choice. That is the travesty.
 
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My point was that out of the two parties only one of them is making the choice, the other is helpless to that decision, and many of us believe they are making a terrible choice. That is the travesty.

My point is that there is no "other". There isn't another person involved. There isn't some sort of a self-aware human consciousness inside of a fetus.

The Christians take it for granted that there's a little person inside of a fetus because they believe that a magic sky-God being "breathes" a "soul" into the embryo at the moment of conception.
 

Rakehellion

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Planned Parenthood is the only place that does abortions and abortions are the only thing Planned Parenthood does.