Which SSD? PNY CS1311 or Kingston V300

[Compman55]

PNY:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178967

Kingston:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721108

My thoughts are a cheap drive for my laptop. Will get lots of power cycles but not lots of uptime. Want performance to be good, but durability is more important.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

PNY

 

[Compman55]

curious as to why?

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Generally, for durability reasons you'd pick a MLC (V300) drive over a TLC (PNY) one. But the V300 is a particularly slow example of breed, using an old (c. 2010 vintage) controller and oddball NAND that hurts performance.

Given the two, the PNY's a better all-around, although what you really want is an SM2246/SM2246EN based drive with MLC NAND. (Something like the Crucial BX100 - if you can still find them in stock, or the similar PNY CS2111.)

 

[UsandThem]

They're both budget drives with very similar performance, so I would get whichever one was cheaper.

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/kingston-ssdnow-v300-ssd-review/5/

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/pny-cs1311-ssd-review-120gb480gb/3/

 

[JimmiG]

They're both budget drives with very similar performance, so I would get whichever one was cheaper.

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/kingston-ssdnow-v300-ssd-review/5/

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/pny-cs1311-ssd-review-120gb480gb/3/

Kingston switched to slower, asynchronous NAND after the drive had been released and reviewed, so old reviews are no longer valid.

However this was in 2014, it's possible they have switched again since then. There's no way of knowing what controller or NAND you will be getting with these drives, all Kingston guarantees is at least 450MB/s Read & Write in ATTO. As long as it's not planar TLC NAND, I'd still pick this drive over a newer TLC drive, though.

 

[UsandThem]

I hadn't read about that. But I just searched, and you are 100% correct.

That was a pretty crappy thing for Kingston to do without at least releasing a statement before getting caught.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1360-kingston-v300-asynchronous-vs-synchronous-benchmark?showall=1

 

[bononos]

They're both budget drives with very similar performance, so I would get whichever one was cheaper.
http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/kingston-ssdnow-v300-ssd-review/5/
.......

The review hasn't been updated to include info on the asynchronous nand problem and worse that ssdreview website put out an article on Jan2015 recommending that particular model without any disclaimer. Quite a sleazy thing to do.

The v300 specs shows that its quite abit slower than even other low end tlc drives.
60GB — 150MB/s Read and 50MB/s Write
120GB — 180MB/s Read and 133MB/s Write
240GB — 191MB/s Read and 142MB/s Write
480GB — 450MB/s Read and 208MB/s Write

 

[Compman55]

So now I am even more confused.........

 

[dave_the_nerd]

So now I am even more confused.........

I tried to keep it simple. But you had to ask, didn't you?

Do not buy a V300. The reasons are specific to the V300 and Kingston.

The PNY drive will be alright.

But in general, if you want a "good" drive, avoid planar TLC and Sandforce controllers.

 

[UsandThem]

So now I am even more confused.........

Keep it simple then:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9799/best-ssds?_ga=1.17820734.648810068.1466114209

850 EVO, PNY CS2211, Mushkin Reactor, or Sandisk X400

The article I linked to explains MLC vs TLC a little bit, but if you really want to read highly technical articles, just Google it. Some people don't care for TLC nand, but it doesn't matter so much to me when buying a budget drive where the best performance isn't needed.

That said, I own the 850 EVO (high prices right now), and the CS2211.

The CS2211 is probably the best budget price/performance drive at this moment. It is MLC and less than $15 difference compared to the drives you listed.

 

[tweakboy]

Kingston , Grab a sandisk x400 ... gl

 

[VirtualLarry]

The review hasn't been updated to include info on the asynchronous nand problem and worse that ssdreview website put out an article on Jan2015 recommending that particular model without any disclaimer. Quite a sleazy thing to do.

The v300 specs shows that its quite abit slower than even other low end tlc drives.
60GB — 150MB/s Read and 50MB/s Write
120GB — 180MB/s Read and 133MB/s Write
240GB — 191MB/s Read and 142MB/s Write
480GB — 450MB/s Read and 208MB/s Write

Those specs are understated.

My 240GB V300 MLC drive that I purchased a few months ago, has 240MB/sec+ random 4K QD32 reads and writes. Sequential is close to 500MB/sec.

There's nothing wrong with a V300 drive. (Other than the usual SandForce clone issues.)