Question which RAM to CPU 11900K?

[roynany]

RAM to CPU 11900K
does CL or MHZ matter in 11900K RAM ? ( CL 14 OR CL20 3600MHZ OR 4800MHZ )
do you need 2 sticks or 4 sticks for quality and speed ?

Uses video editing

 

[maluckey1]

The DDR 4800 @ CL20 will be faster than DDR 3600 @ CL14. It will also be MUCH more expensive.

--Find the fastest supported memory frequency for your board, and then find the lowest timings available at that frequency. It's that simple.

The point everyone seems to be missing is that LATENCY matters, not just CAS or Frequency. I've tested this in real-world for 20 years, and it's never changed.

The Difference Between RAM Speed and CAS Latency | Crucial.com

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[roynany]

ROG STRIX Z590-A GAMING WIFI

ROG STRIX Z590-A GAMING WIFI motherboard features boosted power delivery, an optimized cooling design, PCIe® 4.0, WiFi 6, AI controls and cyberpunk-inspired aesthetics.

rog.asus.com

you complicated me with the numbers
i am attaching a link to a board
which memory is best for me?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

Says it supports DDR4-5133. Can't say that I've actually seen DDR4 that fast, but consider a Patriot Viper 4000-4200 kit, or a Crucial Ballistix around the same speeds.

 

[maluckey1]

roynany,

Sorry if I confused you. I'm a hardware enthusiast, overclocker and a tinkerer by nature and tend to assume that everyone else does the same.

VirtualLarry's recommendations are good ones. A helpful suggestion is that you can look at the supported memory for your board, filter out out the fastest frequency with the lowest first number on the timings. Something to think about is that for content creation, you'll want as much RAM as you can afford.

The chart below is from the Asus memory finder CLICK HERE FOR QVL. I filtered by 32 Gigabytes and DDR 4000, but you can filter however you like. Your board will run anything on that list plug-and-play. Obviously the 15-16-16-36 timings of the first G.SKILL RAM on the list is a winner for raw speed. A great choice for gamers and competitive benchmarking....but...

I'm guessing here that the ADATA kit would be more to your liking. It's still fast, still 32 GB, has good timings, and runs at a lower voltage. The price is less eye-watering as well. Next in rank is the Corsair kit, then all the rest.

Vendors	Part No.	Size	RAM Speed	Supported Speed	SS/DS	Chip Brand	Timing	Voltage	Socket Support
ADATA	AX4U400038G18-QRS	4x 8GB	4000	4000	SS	Samsung	18-19-19-39	1.35	1,2
CORSAIR	CMW32GX4M4Z4000C18(Ver3.31)	4x 8GB	4000	4000	SS	Spectek	18-22-22-42	1.35	1,2,4
G.SKILL	F4-4000C15Q-32GTZR	4x 8GB	4000	4000	SS	Samsung	15-16-16-36	1.5	1,2
G.SKILL	F4-4000C19D-32GTZR	2x 16GB	4000	4000	DS	Samsung	19-19-19-39	1.35	1,2
G.SKILL	F4-4000C19D-32GTZR	2x 16GB	4000	4000	DS	-	19-19-19-39	1.35	1,2
G.SKILL	F4-4000C19D-32GTRG	2x 16GB	4000	4000	DS	-	19-19-19-39	1.35	1,2,4

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[roynany]

which is better for the Z590 motherboard?
2x16GB memories
or
4 x 8GB memories

 

[UsandThem]

which is better for the Z590 motherboard?
2x16GB memories
or
4 x 8GB memories

I'd get two kits of the Crucial Ballistix Max DDR4-5100 for 32GB of memory.

 

[maluckey1]

I'd get two kits of the Crucial Ballistix Max DDR4-5100 for 32GB of memory.

Excellent (and future-proof)...but WOW!! The RAM price would be more than I spent for my entire rig

roynany,

For video editing and encoding there's no difference in 2x16GB or 4x8GB of the same rated frequency and timings. it's a decision you make, based on foreseeable future needs. If you go for a (2 x 16 GB) kit, you can add more RAM later if you need it. For me...I'd buy the fastest and largest capacity RAM that I could afford without cutting into my beer budget...because...priorities!

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[BonzaiDuck]

Excellent (and future-proof)...but WOW!! The RAM price would be more than I spent for my entire rig

roynany,

For video editing and encoding there's no difference in 2x16GB or 4x8GB of the same rated frequency and timings. it's a decision you make, based on foreseeable future needs. If you go for a (2 x 16 GB) kit, you can add more RAM later if you need it. For me...I'd buy the fastest and largest capacity RAM that I could afford without cutting into my beer budget...because...priorities!

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For the last several years, I've had the assumption that filling two slots was better than filling four as a matter of stress to the memory controller. With two slots filled (based on my four-year-old stale knowledge), you can set the command rate to 1 instead of 2, which gives you snappier memory. So personally, if I wanted 32GB from the "git-go" in a system building project, I'd pick 2x16GB for a kit.

If you started with 2x8GB and suddenly decided to double the RAM for various practical reasons, it is certainly less expensive to buy a second kit.

I just had an e-mail conversation with G.SKILL tech-support, who are always willing to provide information. Someone above mentioned the GTZ and GTZR kits. Very good RAM.

 

[maluckey1]

For the last several years, I've had the assumption that filling two slots was better than filling four as a matter of stress to the memory controller. With two slots filled (based on my four-year-old stale knowledge), you can set the command rate to 1 instead of 2, which gives you snappier memory. So personally, if I wanted 32GB from the "git-go" in a system building project, I'd pick 2x16GB for a kit.

If you started with 2x8GB and suddenly decided to double the RAM for various practical reasons, it is certainly less expensive to buy a second kit....

-- 2x can be better on some boards (depends on the controller topology), but at stock (manufacturer claimed settings) there's no difference. Any RAM on the QVL list will run in the approved configuration at the advertised speeds, every time.

-- As far as 1t command rate? With an Intel board (AMD is another matter) you won't find much (if any) success except at lower frequencies. High frequency / low timing kits are faster anyways, so no need to bother with 1t on an Intel platform anymore.

It's easy to get caught up in the marketing and enthusiast hype. Truth is that unless you plan on competing in computer sports (competitive gaming/benching/overclocking) choose what you think that you might need for capacity in the future, then buy the fastest (highest frequency / lowest timings) kit that you can of that capacity. If you plan on competing, I can certainly give my .02 cents worth, but I believe that talk isn't so helpful for what your plans are.

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[roynany]

I'd get two kits of the Crucial Ballistix Max DDR4-5100 for 32GB of memory.

explain to me why pay $ 1600 for RAM ?
what will it give me compared to 4000MHZ ?

 

[UsandThem]

explain to me why pay $ 1600 for RAM ?
what will it give me compared to 4000MHZ ?

It will give you 5100 Mhz, compared to 4000 Mhz. 5100 > 4000.

Leet!

 

[maluckey1]

It will give you 5100 Mhz, compared to 4000 Mhz. 5100 > 4000.

Leet!

So true!! I feel faster just saying 5-1-0-0 m-h-z (see what I did there with the dramatic pauses!)

 

[UsandThem]

So true!! I feel faster just saying 5-1-0-0 m-h-z (see what I did there with the dramatic pauses!)

If there is a downside to the kit, is the lack of RGB, so that likely drops 50 - 100 Mhz off from the maximum speed.

 

[roynany]

It will give you 5100 Mhz, compared to 4000 Mhz. 5100 > 4000.

Leet!

I find no justification for paying more for something that will not give me anything
even you do not know what it will really help

who said a 5000MHz ram help processor 11900?
where is it registered that a 5000MHz ram help processor ?

 

[UsandThem]

I find no justification for paying more for something that will not give me anything
even you do not know what it will really help

Someone has their claws out! Take a deep breath, it's just a computer component.

who said a 5000MHz ram help processor 11900?
where is it registered that a 5000MHz ram help processor ?

The CPUs aren't even out yet, so you're not going to see that data until the CPU launches.

 

[roynany]

Someone has their claws out! Take a deep breath, it's just a computer component.

The CPUs aren't even out yet, so you're not going to see that data until the CPU launches.

If you do not have the informant how do you recommend memory
which costs $ 1600 instead of $ 400?
that you do not know what it is worth ? or if it's work ?

according to measurements of RAM with 10900 processor
not worth investing over 4000mhz

 

[UsandThem]

If you do not have the informant how do you recommend memory
which costs $ 1600 instead of $ 400?
that you do not know what it is worth ? or if it's work ?

according to measurements of RAM with 10900 processor
not worth investing over 4000mhz

Great! Of course the kit I recommended would work with that build. "Informant"? Huh? You never stated what price you wanted to stay within, and you could see the price when you looked at the kit. It was simply a new launched memory kit that most people with any sort sense of humor would have giggled at.

But it looks like you already have your answer on an unlaunched CPU, and Intel's first real microarchitecture change since Sky Lake was released in 2015, but I'm sure that DDR4 4000 is going to be the sweet spot when it comes to speed. Enjoy the new build (when it launches of course).

 

[VirtualLarry]

you complicated me with the numbers