Which processor would be faster.

 

Denithor

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What kind of work will they be doing on these systems?

Expect to hear several comments to the effect of "just buy them a Dell so you don't have to provide tech support for the next three years." Matter of fact, let me be the first to say that. Dell often is hard to beat once you factor in a monitor and operating system, especially on the lower end of computers.
 

Magusigne

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Let me be the second:)

If you want the "fastest" just get an E2180 and OC it to 3ghz. No problem.

But in all honesty..you can find dells for like 300-500 dollars that you CAN NOT BEAT. You can beat the quality of the parts sure..but they can build the same system specs for like 200 under what you could probably do, on the low end of things. Now as high dells versus custom builds..well dell chokes.

 

bryanW1995

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it depends on whether it is a complete system build or just a computer. dell is great with monitor/keyboard/etc and is probably a better deal and the safe bet if no oc'ing is involved. however, if you're a psycho hose beast overclocker like me and you do it just for fun, get the e2200 and oc it to 3.2 + on the stock cooler. when the gf's parents complain that the computer is too loud, tell them that you need $25 for an AC freezer pro 7 to keep the noise down, then oc it to 3.5 after installation. repeat as necessary for each system. :evil:
 

dawp

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you do realize the 5000+ you linked to is a black edition, don't you. As such, it doesn't come with a heatsink, so that would be an added cost. for a 'work' system, i wouldn't overclock anyways, so I'd get the regular 5000+ w/ heatsink.And AMD, if what i hear is right, just lowered the price on those to around $66.
 

Sunrise089

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The Intel processor is the better pick. And please don't consider OC'ing your girlfriend's parents PC :)
 

o1die

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You can overclock the 2xxx and 4xxx with the "pin mod", a simple technique that connects 2 of the pads on the backside of the cpu with copper tape or conductive solution. Mine has copper tape, and it works great. I even bought it this way; the previous owner did it for me. This is a great way to overclock on boards with few bios adjustments, such as dell or hp.
 

SorryImLate

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No overclocking. Just basic programs nothing crazy quickbooks, word and others simple like that.They have a monitor and everything else it would just be a complete tower. Computers that there using now is probably over 5 years old. Pretty much would be looking at a gigabyte board either the p35 that i have or something simular for AMD. Also will be putting in a big hard drive probably 200gb or so because they never delete anything so there current hard drives are almost full. Just planning on getting them the fastest processor for there buget and with one of the gigabyte boards they will be able to upgrade in future no problem which will be good because there old computers which were custom build had the fastest processor that the mb would take so they were not able to upgrade them.
 

SorryImLate

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Originally posted by: dawp
you do realize the 5000+ you linked to is a black edition, don't you. As such, it doesn't come with a heatsink, so that would be an added cost. for a 'work' system, i wouldn't overclock anyways, so I'd get the regular 5000+ w/ heatsink.And AMD, if what i hear is right, just lowered the price on those to around $66.

No i didnt i was just linking one of the fastest Ghz AMD that was below $100 but i would probably step down one then because a stock heatsink would be fine for them.

what about the 2200 compared to this

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ Brisbane 2.8GHz
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: SorryImLate
Originally posted by: dawp
you do realize the 5000+ you linked to is a black edition, don't you. As such, it doesn't come with a heatsink, so that would be an added cost. for a 'work' system, i wouldn't overclock anyways, so I'd get the regular 5000+ w/ heatsink.And AMD, if what i hear is right, just lowered the price on those to around $66.

No i didnt i was just linking one of the fastest Ghz AMD that was below $100 but i would probably step down one then because a stock heatsink would be fine for them.

what about the 2200 compared to this

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ Brisbane 2.8GHz

Roughly similar ... I've got an AMD X2 5400+ and it will handle pretty much anything you throw at it ... easy OC to 3GHz+ at stock volts and nice cool temps.

For what you want to do an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2.4GHz 65W and the GIGABYTE GA-MA74GM-S2H AMD 740G HDMI mATX for $125 total would do. The 740g is the refresh of the AMD 690g with sb700.

 

daveybrat

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: SorryImLate
Originally posted by: dawp
you do realize the 5000+ you linked to is a black edition, don't you. As such, it doesn't come with a heatsink, so that would be an added cost. for a 'work' system, i wouldn't overclock anyways, so I'd get the regular 5000+ w/ heatsink.And AMD, if what i hear is right, just lowered the price on those to around $66.

No i didnt i was just linking one of the fastest Ghz AMD that was below $100 but i would probably step down one then because a stock heatsink would be fine for them.

what about the 2200 compared to this

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ Brisbane 2.8GHz

Roughly similar ... I've got an AMD X2 5400+ and it will handle pretty much anything you throw at it ... easy OC to 3GHz+ at stock volts and nice cool temps.

For what you want to do an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2.4GHz 65W and the GIGABYTE GA-MA74GM-S2H AMD 740G HDMI mATX for $125 total would do. The 740g is the refresh of the AMD 690g with sb700.

Heyhey linked exactly what i was going to recommend. The AMD 4600+ with the AMD 740G motherboard is the best bang for the buck for them. A lot of great features on the motherboard and nice video for what they'll do. They do not need more than a 2.4GHz dual-core cpu.

It's a cheap and fast setup for them. :thumbsup:
 

Soulkeeper

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the allendale will likely overclock to a speed that is faster than all of them (3GHz or more), but might get stiff competition from the black edition X2 if you can keep it cool enough to get it running 200 or more MHz faster
if you aren't planning on overclocking at all, then i definately recommend one of the X2's
 

dawp

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Originally posted by: SorryImLate
is this the motherboard you recomend?

BIOSTAR A740G M2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail


or which one out of these?

motheboards

you link to the motherboards is borked, hear's a list for thoese 740g:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...71936737&name=AMD+740G

Also, you might consider the 780g based boards, little more expensive, but has better on-board video:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...71937261&name=AMD+780G
thou the 740g will fine for most business apps., and any one will do.
 

SorryImLate

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Cool thanks for the help the onboard video and AMD processor setup recomended took the build cost down almost 100 bucks. Thanks