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KBTuning

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go down a bit... ive changed what i was talking about a little

as the title says im wondering about these heatsinks... like which is best for what.... i know the Big Typhoon is well... BIG and very quiet and does great at cooling but its BIG... now the ORBS i have no idea about but if they are like the first orbs taht thermaltake released then they are the badest things on the market right now.... i doubt it is.....

whats the deal w/ all of these.... and which would be good for a 3000+ oc'd to 3500+ levels? but still quiet.
 

2kfire

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Why not go for a Thermalright XP-90? It's smaller than the Big Typhoon but would more than adequately cool that chip with that overclock. Another thing to consider is that if you have the best CPU cooler in the world, but poor airflow through your case, your temps will still suck.
 

DasFox

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I just bought a Silent 939 K8 (CL-P0200):

http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/cl-p0200silent939/cl-p0200.htm

I haven't run the box yet, still building it, but this thing is beefy, cooper base with heatpipes and aluminum fins and what a breeze this thing was to install, took a whole 15 seconds to clip it on.

I know for a fact this thing is going to be better then the stock HSF and for simple install, it can't be beat.

Here's a picture of it on the box I'm building to give you a idea of its size:

http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brandilcase0pm.jpg

ALOHA
 

KBTuning

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i havent gone for the xp90 because i dont want to have to chase down a fan for it... i want a combo deal.... so the thermaltakes are my best shot right now... if i have to ill go w/ a xp90 but id rather not.... its something inside me that saying... DONT GET IT!!! even though i did look at them a few weeks ago.
 

KBTuning

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well after thinking... doesnt the xp-90 use a 80mm fan? and if it does is there a 120mm to 80mm adapter i can buy? i REALLY dont want any 80mm fans in this case as they are usually too loud and cause vibration.
 

GalvanizedYankee

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The XP-90 Retail is $32 at Jab-Tech.com and comes with a fan.

It's called XP-*90* because it uses a 92mm fan. The XP-*120* uses a 120mm fan.

There are stickied HS reviews at the top of this page and if you can read this you can read
some of them :D

ThermalRight leads...........ThermalTake follows. They are Takers! Why do you think they put
Take in their name? ThermalTake is a copy-cat.

I use a XP-90C. So there ;)


...Galvanized
 

KBTuning

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ok... ive come to a decision....

Xp-120 or a Thermaltake Big Typhoon.... size really isnt an issue but noise and cooling power is...

now i have a ASrock 939dual sata2 in a Antec P180... so there is a fair amount of room. only question now is which will be easier to mount and which oen cools better....

i think that the thermaltake big typhoon will cool everything better, since i have a passive northbridge heatsinkt he extra air blowing around it would be better since the big typhoon has an open bottom.

but the xp120 weighs less from what i have read...

Finally do i have to remove my stock mounting bracket to make these work? if thats the case ill buy a new motherboard too...
 

kindest

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you cant go wrong either way. both will suffice.
depends on what you feel is better looking.
peronsally i like the big typhoon with a non-stock fan.
 

Mrvile

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Why not consider the SI-120? It's the same as the XP-120 but it's raised slightly so it fits almost all motherboards now.
 

Gamingphreek

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DOnt even consider Tt. They are WAY WAY out of their league when comparing the heavies from Thermalright, and Scythe. I would definitely look at (in no particular order):

1. XP-90: I have it i am idling at 37C with my ambient room temp around 70F. The Copper version is not worth it. Get it at SVC.com for ~$25 IIRC.
[*]For a fan just get a Nexus 92mm fan (Silent PC Review swears by this fan)
2. XP-120/SI-120: Much larger. THe XP may have a degree or 2 advantage on the SI-120, but either is very good.
[*]Couple this cooler with either a Yate Loon 120mm Fan or Nexus 120mm Fan.
3. Scythe Ninja: Enormous. But probably (tied with the next HS) the best one out there.
[*]Couple this with the same 120mm fans from earlier
4. Thermalright HR-01: Thermalrights new heavy. Much better than the XP/SI-120 at marginally higher cost. Some feel uncomfortable with the large cantilever force though. The Scythe is marginally better in lower airflow situations but the HR-01 pulls ahead slightly with some airflow.
[*]To put a fan on this, for now you have to use zip ties or some other method. Thermalright says they will start making the HR-01's with Fan Clips though.

*Note the XP-90 and XP/SI-120 both come with sound dampening strips to place on the heatsink to minimize fan vibration.
*Thermaltake should NOT be an option when compared to these heatsinks.
*I have heard very good things about the Delta Triple Blade fans so you may want to check those out as well.
*The Antec Tri-Cools, like those that come in the P180 are also very nice 120mm fans for the price

-Kevin
 

imported_Sincity

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I bought a Big Typhoon from Fry's/Outpost.com for $49.99 less $15 rebate. I returned it because like said above, it is BIG. Big not being the problem in my situation. But the height can create an issue since the fan is so close to the side panel it may be starving of air.

I am now looking to purchase a Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 PRO (about $40 shipped from NewEgg). You can read about it in the forum sticky on HS reviews. It compares favorably to the Zalman CNPS9500 at a lower price point.
 

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
DOnt even consider Tt. They are WAY WAY out of their league when comparing the heavies from Thermalright, and Scythe. I would definitely look at (in no particular order):

I think your opinion is slightly biased.

I have tried both in my system. The big typhoon is a major pain to install but performance wise, especially for cooling under a heavy load, the big typhoon is hands down the quietest and the best air cooling option available, it's even better if you put a better fan than stock on it, but the stock fan is almost silent. The XP-120 was the quickest and easiest to install, but my processor runs almost 5 degrees higher under load.

A few hands on unbiased reviews
http://www.overclockercafe.com/Reviews/cooling/Tt_Big_Typhoon/
http://www.bigbruin.com/reviews05/bigtyphoon/index.php?file=1
http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/cooling/air/thermaltake/clp0014/index.shtml

note that in the viperlair review, the big typhoon does almost as well as water cooling.
 

Gamingphreek

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the big typhoon is hands down the quietest and the best air cooling option available

BS

The HR-01, and the Scythe Ninja soundly defeat it. I would say it is marginally worse than the XP/SI-120.

Additionally, build quality on Tt's are horrible. If you look at the base of the unit, the surface is horribly crafted (extremely rough, unpolished). Additionally, look at the Thermal Dissipation per Watt comparison on these coolers. The Big Typhoon doesn't stand a chance against the heavies from Scythe and Thermalright.

Not only that i will GUARANTEE YOU that a Nexus or Yate Loon fan is much quieter.

The Big Typhoon is a decent product, and by Tt's standards it is very nice, however it is definitely not worth the money over the aforementioned products.

-Kevin
 

freddy418

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The HR-01, and the Scythe Ninja soundly defeat it. I would say it is marginally worse than the XP/SI-120.

where's the proof for this nonsense?
In all the tests I've read about the ninja, it's pretty much a split between the typhoon and the ninja depending on which one gets a higher cfm fan. The HR-01 isn't in the same league as the ninja if you look at this.

I have the xp-120 and big typhoon on hand right now, I have tried them both, and when installed in my system using the same fan:
Big typhoon: 38 C full load
XP-120: 43 C full load

Additionally, build quality on Tt's are horrible. If you look at the base of the unit, the surface is horribly crafted (extremely rough, unpolished). Additionally, look at the Thermal Dissipation per Watt comparison on these coolers. The Big Typhoon doesn't stand a chance against the heavies from Scythe and Thermalright.

I'm looking at the base on my Tt and it's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about, and where's this comparison you speak of.

Not only that i will GUARANTEE YOU that a Nexus or Yate Loon fan is much quieter.

I agree, really expensive fans can be pretty quiet.

The Big Typhoon is a decent product, and by Tt's standards it is very nice, however it is definitely not worth the money over the aforementioned products.

Up to date best prices from pricewatch
XP-120 - no fan -> 52
SI-120 - no fan -> 45
Scythe Ninja - no fan -> 47
HR-01 - no fan -> 48
Big Typhoon - ready to go -> 42

To sum it up, you are obviously biased against thermaltake for some reason, maybe it has something to do with the heatsink brand that's you're using in your case.
 

imported_Sincity

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One thing I have noticed between the Big Typhoon and the Freezer 64 PRO is that the Freezer 64 has the heatpipes soldered onto to the mounting base for better conductivity/heat transfer. This was absent on the Big Typhoon. The BT heatpipes were merely clamped together and you can see a lot of pipe that is not in contact with the mounting base. Perhaps if TT soldered the pipes the performance will have improved to an already great product?
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: freddy418
The HR-01, and the Scythe Ninja soundly defeat it. I would say it is marginally worse than the XP/SI-120.

where's the proof for this nonsense?
In all the tests I've read about the ninja, it's pretty much a split between the typhoon and the ninja depending on which one gets a higher cfm fan. The HR-01 isn't in the same league as the ninja if you look at this.

Yes i read that review. And they dont say anything like that. In fact i believe they say:
Thermalright has delivered a very competitive heatsink in the HR-01. Performance is neck-and-neck with the Scythe Ninja, and that's saying something. Yes, there are nuances to the comparison between the two, but when it comes down to it, the two perform very similarly. That means that Thermalright is back at the top of the quiet high-performance heap ? it seems they never fade for long.
And they also say that the Ninja is slightly better at higher CFMs. However at lower CFM's the performance is neck and neck.


I have the xp-120 and big typhoon on hand right now, I have tried them both, and when installed in my system using the same fan:
Big typhoon: 38 C full load
XP-120: 43 C full load

Those are BS measurements then. There is absolutely no way there should be that much difference

Additionally, build quality on Tt's are horrible. If you look at the base of the unit, the surface is horribly crafted (extremely rough, unpolished). Additionally, look at the Thermal Dissipation per Watt comparison on these coolers. The Big Typhoon doesn't stand a chance against the heavies from Scythe and Thermalright.

I'm looking at the base on my Tt and it's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about, and where's this comparison you speak of.

Read any review from a good reviewer in the world. They will all tell you the same thing. Tt's build quality is much lower than that of Thermalright or Zalman (and now Scythe it seems). When Heatpipes are used, their soldering jobs are half ass, and the base of their heatsinks always have rough, unpolished surfaces.

Not only that i will GUARANTEE YOU that a Nexus or Yate Loon fan is much quieter.

I agree, really expensive fans can be pretty quiet.

Ok, the Nexus fan may be a little pricey, but the Yate Loons can be found for under $5. Any of those fans with the addition of Delta, Antec, and CM, are far better than anything you will find on/in a Thermaltake product

The Big Typhoon is a decent product, and by Tt's standards it is very nice, however it is definitely not worth the money over the aforementioned products.

Up to date best prices from pricewatch
XP-120 - no fan -> 52
SI-120 - no fan -> 45
Scythe Ninja - no fan -> 47
HR-01 - no fan -> 48
Big Typhoon - ready to go -> 42

To sum it up, you are obviously biased against thermaltake for some reason, maybe it has something to do with the heatsink brand that's you're using in your case.

Hmm how about these:
XP-120 @ $42.79
SI-120 @ $44.69
Scythe Ninja @ $38.95
HR-01 @ $48.00
Big Typhoon @ $44.00

I will buy whoever is best. However Thermaltake isn't even close. Not only is that fan NO WHERE NEAR 16dba, the build quality is very poor compared to Thermalright and Zalman. Go to any silent enthusiast and tell them Thermaltake is good and they will LAUGH in your face.

Not only that all but the extremely new HR-01 are the same price or up to $5 cheaper. Add in a <$5 fan or even a higher quality Nexus and your system will be WAY better than with a pos Thermaltake product.

You say i am biased, i have bought many Thermatake products, and i have yet to be impressed. I have bought 2 different Volcano series CPU HS/Fs, i bought a Kaiser case, and have bought a "silent" fan. Fast forward two years to present, and I have yet to buy another Thermaltake product.

 

RobDMB

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I've been researching this myself and the consensus I seem to read everywhere is that the ninja and the big typhoon are the two best coolers out there right now.
 

DeathSlayer

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XP120 with 120mm fan is the best air cooling solution, usually with a panaflo.

TT makes horrible products from my experiences. Thermalright is the right way to go ;)

however, the ninja is very good too.

the 2 best ones = XP120 and Scythe Ninja.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Sincity
Gamingphreak:

Soldering on the BT heatpipes? Mine didn't have any :disgust:

I never referred to a specific product when i made that statement. I said that when using Heat pipes on products Thermaltakes soldering job is bad.

the 2 best ones = XP120 and Scythe Ninja.

Xp-120 is outclassed by the HR-01 heatsink now. However, i would venture to say that the XP/SI-120 is a distant 3rd to the Ninja and the HR-01.

Also you are forgetting the very nice Zalman coolers. The 9500 is kind of loud but is a very high quality cooler. Same with the 7xxx series. They are quiet (and very moddable) with very nice cooling which rivals that of Thermalright models with certain configurations.

-Kevin
 

potato28

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Ya the Scythe or HR-01 are very good. Even better, if u cant afford the fan at the point of purchase, run it silent!! ThermalTake make bad, bad products, with some execptions. I bought a cooler for my CPU, and I looked at the bottoms of the stock and new cooler: the stock had a better surface than the TT HSF. After that, I buy CM or any other reputable company. O ya Gamingphreek: PWNAGE ON THE NOOB!
 

KBTuning

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does anyone know if a ninja will fit in a P180 w/ a Asus A8N-SLI if it has 2 optical drives?