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Which one to keep? Radeon 9000 Pro 128MB or Radeon 8500LE 128MB @ 275/275Mhz?

Bad Dude

Diamond Member
I cannot decide which card to keep, so please help me decide within 7 days. Both of these cards are ATI original, built by ATI. I like to play games with good quality graphics and speed, but speed is not as important as quality since I think the speed is fast enough with either card. The competition is between:

-Radeon 8500LE 128MB @ 275/275Mhz. Connections, S-video out, CRT, dual display both TV and CRT monitor.

-Radeon 9000 Pro 128MB. Connections, Coax video out, CRT, DVI-I, dual display both TV and CRT or both CRTs.

The second question is which one would display better on TV? Coax or S-video? Is there a bit difference between the two connection types?

Is it true that the Radeon 9000 Pro has DirectX 8 while the Radeon 8500 does not really support DirectX 8? Which card will support DirectX 9 better?

System specs:
-P4 1.6AGhz@2.24Ghz
-Epox 4G4A+
-Two Maxtor 40GB 7200rpm, 2mb buffer.
-One Maxtor 80GB 7200rpm, 2mb buffer.
-Two Samsung 512MB DDR PC2700.
-48x12x48 Liteon CDRW drive.
-16X DVDrom Liteon.
-Santa Cruz.
-On board ethernet chip
-WinTV PC401 Stereo.
-Firewire card.
-V.90 USR hardware gaming modem
-100MB zip drive.
-1.44Mb floppy.
-Two 8cm high speed fans in front.
-1 9cm fan at the back.


Please help me decide as I can only keep one.
 
I believe the 8500LE has more potential than just 275/275. O/c that mofo and keep it. The 9000Pro is much slower than it.
 
i was reading the rage3d.com forums a week or two ago and some people had oc'd their le to 300/300

anyway, based on reading reviews and owning a 8500, id keep the 8500, good card it is
 
Originally posted by: Bad_Dude
I cannot decide which card to keep, so please help me decide within 7 days. Both of these cards are ATI original, built by ATI. I like to play games with good quality graphics and speed, but speed is not as important as quality since I think the speed is fast enough with either card. The human eyes can only see 33 FPS any way. The competition is between:

-Radeon 8500LE 128MB @ 275/275Mhz. Connections, S-video out, CRT, dual display both TV and CRT monitor.

-Radeon 9000 Pro 128MB. Connections, Coax video out, CRT, DVI-I, dual display both TV and CRT or both CRTs.

The second question is which one would display better on TV? Coax or S-video? Is there a bit difference between the two connection types?

Is it true that the Radeon 9000 Pro has DirectX 8 while the Radeon 8500 does not really support DirectX 8? Which card will support DirectX 9 better?

System specs:
-P4 1.6AGhz@2.24Ghz
-Epox 4G4A+
-Two Maxtor 40GB 7200rpm, 2mb buffer.
-One Maxtor 80GB 7200rpm, 2mb buffer.
-Two Samsung 512MB DDR PC2700.
-48x12x48 Liteon CDRW drive.
-16X DVDrom Liteon.
-Santa Cruz.
-On board ethernet chip
-WinTV PC401 Stereo.
-Firewire card.
-V.90 USR hardware gaming modem
-100MB zip drive.
-1.44Mb floppy.
-Two 8cm high speed fans in front.
-1 9cm fan at the back.


Please help me decide as I can only keep one.

the number of FPS you can actually "see" doesn't matter. The faster the better! and the 8500 is faster

 
Is it true that the Radeon 9000 Pro has DirectX 8 while the Radeon 8500 does not really support DirectX 8? Which card will support DirectX 9 better?

They are both fully DirectX 8.1 compliant graphics cards, neither have even limited support for any of DX9 new features.

Personally I'd take the R8500LE @ 275/275 unless your able to o/c the R9000 to 300/300 or better. Only real advantage to the R9000 would be support for ATi's FullStream, it also posesses a more efficient vertex shader implementation, though that will be easily off-set by the clockspeed disadvantage and the lack of the second TMU/pixel rendering pipeline.

 
I would stick with the 9000, being a newer card.

You have to understand that you're talking about ALMOST the same card.

The 9000 has a vertex shader missing, and also one TMU per pipeline.

But the TMU's that are in there can do twice as much work as the TMU's in the 8500, so theoretically, they can process the same amount of textures.

Once ATI adjusts their driver suite to take better advantage of this one-TMU-per-pipe architecture that they've come up with (seeing as how a 9000, 9500 and 9700 are all based on it), then I belive the card will outshine the 8500.

Just my 2cents tho...
 
8500

BTW:

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The human eyes can only see 33 FPS any way
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Not true

Definitely not true...I can see 33 1/3 FPS 😉 😀

On a serious note, it will be interesting to see if bearxor's hypothesis proves true.
 
I took the majority advice and keep the 8500. The 9000 Pro has been returned to Fry's.
Thanks for helping out guys.
 
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