Originally posted by: loki8481
it will be an early election night; if McCain loses two amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH, I think he's done.
Just 1 of those actually.
Originally posted by: loki8481
it will be an early election night; if McCain loses two amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH, I think he's done.
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: loki8481
it will be an early election night; if McCain loses two amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH, I think he's done.
Just 1 of those actually.
"Frankly, I think Al may be giving the McCain campaign too much credit. My guess is that something like this happened: they ran their usual set of internal polls over the weekend, and saw themselves 5 points down in Colorado and Virginia. 8 points down in Minnesota and Wisconsin, and 10 points down in Iowa and New Mexico. But perhaps Pennsylvania came in at a -6 or something -- not much worse than the others -- and they decided: why worry about all those states when we can worry about just this one." Link Link
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: loki8481
it will be an early election night; if McCain loses two amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH, I think he's done.
Just 1 of those actually.
No, he can lose VA or PA and still win if he wins the rest of the Bush 04 states.
It'll be an early election night, though.
Originally posted by: jonks
FL/OH/VA/NC are all EST. If McCain loses any of them, he lost the election. OH/FL are populous so I expect we'll hear back results from VA/NC much sooner. Watch Virginia where Obama is up by about 8 pts. If exit polls confirm predictions, it'll be over very quick.
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: loki8481
it will be an early election night; if McCain loses two amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH, I think he's done.
Just 1 of those actually.
No, he can lose VA or PA and still win if he wins the rest of the Bush 04 states.
Originally posted by: glugglug
Originally posted by: jonks
FL/OH/VA/NC are all EST. If McCain loses any of them, he lost the election. OH/FL are populous so I expect we'll hear back results from VA/NC much sooner. Watch Virginia where Obama is up by about 8 pts. If exit polls confirm predictions, it'll be over very quick.
FL & OH both have parts in Central time.
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: loki8481
it will be an early election night; if McCain loses two amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH, I think he's done.
Just 1 of those actually.
No, he can lose VA or PA and still win if he wins the rest of the Bush 04 states.
It'll be an early election night, though.
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: loki8481
it will be an early election night; if McCain loses two amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH, I think he's done.
Just 1 of those actually.
No, he can lose VA or PA and still win if he wins the rest of the Bush 04 states.
It'll be an early election night, though.
If Obama wins all the Kerry staes from 2004 + IA, NM, CO he wins the election. And he is in NM, CO and IA So McCain has to win PA, VA, NC, FL AND OH. If he loses just 1 of those he is toast.
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: loki8481
it will be an early election night; if McCain loses two amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH, I think he's done.
Just 1 of those actually.
No, he can lose VA or PA and still win if he wins the rest of the Bush 04 states.
It'll be an early election night, though.
If Obama wins all the Kerry staes from 2004 + IA, NM, CO he wins the election. And he is in NM, CO and IA So McCain has to win PA, VA, NC, FL AND OH. If he loses just 1 of those he is toast.
Remember that Pennslyvania was a Kerry state. Kerry - PA + VA + IA + CO + NM = 265. McCain wins.
He can win without either VA or without NC among those 5. And in the event of a 269-269 tie, there can be some monkey business with the electoral college.
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: loki8481
it will be an early election night; if McCain loses two amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH, I think he's done.
Just 1 of those actually.
No, he can lose VA or PA and still win if he wins the rest of the Bush 04 states.
It'll be an early election night, though.
If Obama wins all the Kerry staes from 2004 + IA, NM, CO he wins the election. And he is in NM, CO and IA So McCain has to win PA, VA, NC, FL AND OH. If he loses just 1 of those he is toast.
Remember that Pennslyvania was a Kerry state. Kerry - PA + VA + IA + CO + NM = 265. McCain wins.
He can win without either VA or without NC among those 5. And in the event of a 269-269 tie, there can be some monkey business with the electoral college.
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: winnar111
Remember that Pennslyvania was a Kerry state. Kerry - PA + VA + IA + CO + NM = 265. McCain wins.
He can win without either VA or without NC among those 5. And in the event of a 269-269 tie, there can be some monkey business with the electoral college.
Sure, the math works if you ignore the Obama lead in PA and the 9 or so Bush '04 states. If you accept reality though, you realize that one of those Bush '04 states going blue ends it all.
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: GTKeeper
Originally posted by: loki8481
it will be an early election night; if McCain loses two amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH, I think he's done.
Just 1 of those actually.
No, he can lose VA or PA and still win if he wins the rest of the Bush 04 states.
It'll be an early election night, though.
If Obama wins all the Kerry staes from 2004 + IA, NM, CO he wins the election. And he is in NM, CO and IA So McCain has to win PA, VA, NC, FL AND OH. If he loses just 1 of those he is toast.
Remember that Pennslyvania was a Kerry state. Kerry - PA + VA + IA + CO + NM = 265. McCain wins.
He can win without either VA or without NC among those 5. And in the event of a 269-269 tie, there can be some monkey business with the electoral college.
Ok, you missed my point.
Original question:
If McCain loses 2 amongst PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH he loses.
My point is if he loses 1 of those. I.E Obama wins either PA, VA, NC, FL, or OH he loses.
Originally posted by: glugglug
Originally posted by: jonks
FL/OH/VA/NC are all EST. If McCain loses any of them, he lost the election. OH/FL are populous so I expect we'll hear back results from VA/NC much sooner. Watch Virginia where Obama is up by about 8 pts. If exit polls confirm predictions, it'll be over very quick.
FL & OH both have parts in Central time.