Originally posted by: jpeyton
Bristol can now raise her baby under the wonderful example of her mother, Sarah Palin, who supports abstinence-only education, pro-life (even in cases of rape involving minors), creationism in our science classes, and a bevy of other social conservative values.
Originally posted by: classy
Yea marrying the father, that squares everything away. :roll:
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Baked
The point is not about the 17 year old having sex, it's about the 17 year old's mother talking about how conservative and religious she is, but doesn't even have the ability to raise her own daughter to follow these simple morals and values. If she can't run she family proper, how do you expect this woman to run the most powerful country in the world. She might as well go teach at Sunday school.Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.
What are you talking about? If a 17 year really old wants to have sex, there is nothing that you can do as a parent.
By your logic, if she becomes the POTUS all her subordinates can tell her to fuck off. Why bother following any of the laws and regulations?
The situation doesn't cocern me either way, but that really is an asinine comparision. If she becomes POTUS and all her subordinates tell her to fuck off, she can send them packing. If her daughter tells her to fuck off, what is she supposed to do? Chain her up to the boiler in the basement?
Exactly my point, and exactly what I already said. 17 year olds make poor decisions regardless of how they are raised. Thats what teenagers do.
Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.
What are you talking about? If a 17 year really old wants to have sex, there is nothing that you can do as a parent.
So the point of abstinence-only education is what now?
Whats the point of DARE? Every kid gets told that drugs are bad, but what percentage of kids that end up using drugs? Should we just stop teaching it? You can raise a child perfectly and still watch them go down the crapper. If a 17 year old wants to have sex, they will.
Are you guys really this stupid when it comes to teenagers?
They're specifically talking about abstinence-only education. If kids are going to be kids, then why not prepare them to at least be safer when they do have sex instead of just saying "don't have sex" and call it a day. Nobody is saying that abstinence shouldn't be taught, just that it shouldn't be the only thing when teenagers are going to have sex regardless.
like 'don't cross the street when the sign says 'don't walk', but if you do, look both ways first'?
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Originally posted by: So
The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.
Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.
?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
It's such crap that stories like this are "political liabilities." So many American families deal with young girls getting pregnant and I don't see why we expect our politicians to live perfect lives.
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: her209
Okay, this thread has gotten too P&N-y.
Well you gotta admit that information is one sure way to squash any rumors.
"blabble, blabble, rumor, rabble"
"look, she's preggars, couldn't have had the child"
*OWNED*
-edit-
And whoever the lucky guy is that knocked her up is set for life. Smart guy.
You forget that it is very easy to fake when the current pregnancy started(If there even is one). First baby was born in april? That was 4-5 months ago depending on the exact date. So given enough time to start over again it is probable that she is on baby number 2 right now. Not 5 months pregnant, but pregnant nonetheless. Guess we can wait and see if current baby is born premature at full weight.
What is the minimum time delay between one baby and the next?
:laugh: This is a great theory.
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
It's such crap that stories like this are "political liabilities." So many American families deal with young girls getting pregnant and I don't see why we expect our politicians to live perfect lives.
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.
So anything that you have done in your life negated whatever your parents morals and values are?
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.
What are you talking about? If a 17 year really old wants to have sex, there is nothing that you can do as a parent.
Originally posted by: NFS4
Most likely a photoshop, but still funny![]()
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.
What are you talking about? If a 17 year really old wants to have sex, there is nothing that you can do as a parent.
So the point of abstinence-only education is what now?
Whats the point of DARE? Every kid gets told that drugs are bad, but what percentage of kids that end up using drugs? Should we just stop teaching it? You can raise a child perfectly and still watch them go down the crapper. If a 17 year old wants to have sex, they will.
Are you guys really this stupid when it comes to teenagers?
Originally posted by: zinfamous
2: Her choosing to run for MAJOR political office when she has a young child with downs syndrome, a pregnant teen, and 3 other kids, is a horrible, horrible parenting decision. Though...I suppose she has nanny(ies)?
linkOriginally posted by: zinfamous
Again. This throws her abstinence-only policy in her face. That's the entire point. nothing more. You seem to agree that teaching abstinence only is a horrible idea. Many do.
Let's hope her daughter's little adventure drives that point home to her abstinence-only, conservative, family-values mother.
Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.
?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.
What are you talking about? If a 17 year really old wants to have sex, there is nothing that you can do as a parent.
So the point of abstinence-only education is what now?
Whats the point of DARE? Every kid gets told that drugs are bad, but what percentage of kids that end up using drugs? Should we just stop teaching it? You can raise a child perfectly and still watch them go down the crapper. If a 17 year old wants to have sex, they will.
Are you guys really this stupid when it comes to teenagers?
There's a big difference between teaching about abstinence and abstinence-only education.
Oh, and yes, DARE is a big fucking joke and not worth the government money that gets spent on the program.
I have no problem with educators teaching that abstinence is the only 100% certain way of not getting pregnant and not getting an STD. Because it's true!
But DARE is a joke, and so is abstinence-only education. My sex ed class taught us that if you weren't going to abstain, you had lots of birth control options, some of which you can stack up to be extra safe. And of course you can do things other than sexual intercourse like oral. It also discouraged the use of certain methods like "withdrawal" and the "rhythm method" since they're hardly effective.
Also, I hate those dumbass liberal bloggers who are inevitably going to lord this over them. Cripes. Double standard much? As long as the Democratic party stays away, though, it's cool.
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: So
The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.
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Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.
?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: So
The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.
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Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.
?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: So
The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.
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Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.
?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.
what's more, the schools in Alaska do *not* teach abstinence-only.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: So
The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.
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Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.
?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.
who needs facts?
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: lupi
I hate when people get punished with a baby.
The worst STD of all.
PREGNANCY!
Originally posted by: zinfamous
My point concerns the way that she has handled this from the start. or at least has been reported...
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: zinfamous
My point concerns the way that she has handled this from the start. or at least has been reported...
There's your keypoint right there. Should McCain and Palin revealed that Palin's daughter was pregnant when she was announced as the VP candidate on Friday? Possibly. In hindsight, it looks like the wise choice. But it is also possible that they didn't think it appropriate at the time.
However, Palin and McCain had to react because a nut-blogger at Daily Kos posted an out and out smear that Sarah Palin faked her pregnancy to cover up for Bristol. Because of this vicious lie which, for some reason, spread despite being ludicrous, Palin and her family had to reveal that her daughter was pregnant under less than ideal circumstances.
Btw, that nut-blogger at Daily Kos....his post has since disappeared down the memory hole.
