Which one of you knocked up Bristol Palin?

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RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Bristol can now raise her baby under the wonderful example of her mother, Sarah Palin, who supports abstinence-only education, pro-life (even in cases of rape involving minors), creationism in our science classes, and a bevy of other social conservative values.

Another great post by jtroll. :roll:
 

Pepsei

Lifer
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there was a fake levijohnston.com site this morning... with funny fake blogs... too bad it got yanked.
 

So

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.

What are you talking about? If a 17 year really old wants to have sex, there is nothing that you can do as a parent.
The point is not about the 17 year old having sex, it's about the 17 year old's mother talking about how conservative and religious she is, but doesn't even have the ability to raise her own daughter to follow these simple morals and values. If she can't run she family proper, how do you expect this woman to run the most powerful country in the world. She might as well go teach at Sunday school.

By your logic, if she becomes the POTUS all her subordinates can tell her to fuck off. Why bother following any of the laws and regulations?

The situation doesn't cocern me either way, but that really is an asinine comparision. If she becomes POTUS and all her subordinates tell her to fuck off, she can send them packing. If her daughter tells her to fuck off, what is she supposed to do? Chain her up to the boiler in the basement?

Exactly my point, and exactly what I already said. 17 year olds make poor decisions regardless of how they are raised. Thats what teenagers do.

The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.
 

So

Lifer
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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.

What are you talking about? If a 17 year really old wants to have sex, there is nothing that you can do as a parent.

So the point of abstinence-only education is what now?

Whats the point of DARE? Every kid gets told that drugs are bad, but what percentage of kids that end up using drugs? Should we just stop teaching it? You can raise a child perfectly and still watch them go down the crapper. If a 17 year old wants to have sex, they will.

Are you guys really this stupid when it comes to teenagers?

They're specifically talking about abstinence-only education. If kids are going to be kids, then why not prepare them to at least be safer when they do have sex instead of just saying "don't have sex" and call it a day. Nobody is saying that abstinence shouldn't be taught, just that it shouldn't be the only thing when teenagers are going to have sex regardless.

like 'don't cross the street when the sign says 'don't walk', but if you do, look both ways first'?

:p

Are you saying that would be a bad thing to say to kids?
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: So
The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.

link

Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.

?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: BeauJangles
It's such crap that stories like this are "political liabilities." So many American families deal with young girls getting pregnant and I don't see why we expect our politicians to live perfect lives.

I agree.

The problem arises when this issue hits the very politicians arguing that we should live perfect lives, as determined by them, and such lives do not include teen pregnancy.

Teen pregnancy being a myth for responsible families, of course, because teaching abstinence as opposed to safe and protected sex is the best, and ONLY policy for responsible parents.

all aboard the hypocrisy bandwagon!

 

preCRT

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: her209
Okay, this thread has gotten too P&N-y.

Well you gotta admit that information is one sure way to squash any rumors.

"blabble, blabble, rumor, rabble"

"look, she's preggars, couldn't have had the child"
*OWNED*

-edit-
And whoever the lucky guy is that knocked her up is set for life. Smart guy.

You forget that it is very easy to fake when the current pregnancy started(If there even is one). First baby was born in april? That was 4-5 months ago depending on the exact date. So given enough time to start over again it is probable that she is on baby number 2 right now. Not 5 months pregnant, but pregnant nonetheless. Guess we can wait and see if current baby is born premature at full weight.

What is the minimum time delay between one baby and the next?

:laugh: This is a great theory.

"The shortest interval between two births by one woman is 208 days. The record was set by Jayne Bleackley of New Zealand after she gave birth to a son on September 3, 1999, then a daughter on March 30, 2000"
http://www.medhunters.com/articles/trivia102406.html

So, theoretically Bristol could still be Trig's babymomma and deliver surprise #2 around Dec/Jan. Baby #2 won't be premature, but overdue :laugh:
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: BeauJangles
It's such crap that stories like this are "political liabilities." So many American families deal with young girls getting pregnant and I don't see why we expect our politicians to live perfect lives.

Agreed.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.

So anything that you have done in your life negated whatever your parents morals and values are?

Why did her mom attempt cover it up first? Why did she agree to run for VP when she has a large, young, and difficult family life? Poor decision on her part.

I guaran-damn-tee that McCain did not know about this, nor did his handlers before making his choice. No way in hell a republican attempting to court the conservative base would pick a woman with this kind of "busy" family life.

Not that she has a pregnant teen daughter, of course, it's just this:
1: running on a platform of abstinence, shoring up the conservative "family values" vote, is the definition of hypocrisy
2: Her choosing to run for MAJOR political office when she has a young child with downs syndrome, a pregnant teen, and 3 other kids, is a horrible, horrible parenting decision. Though...I suppose she has nanny(ies)?

 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.

What are you talking about? If a 17 year really old wants to have sex, there is nothing that you can do as a parent.

She could continue to toe the abstinence line, as I'm sure she has...and that worked out for her didn't it? :D
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.

What are you talking about? If a 17 year really old wants to have sex, there is nothing that you can do as a parent.

So the point of abstinence-only education is what now?

Whats the point of DARE? Every kid gets told that drugs are bad, but what percentage of kids that end up using drugs? Should we just stop teaching it? You can raise a child perfectly and still watch them go down the crapper. If a 17 year old wants to have sex, they will.

Are you guys really this stupid when it comes to teenagers?

Again. This throws her abstinence-only policy in her face. That's the entire point. nothing more. You seem to agree that teaching abstinence only is a horrible idea. Many do.

Let's hope her daughter's little adventure drives that point home to her abstinence-only, conservative, family-values mother.
 
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for the record, i would:

1. hit it, like a train wreck
2. hit it again
3. marry her (hot, bigguns, good breeding stock, marrying up.)
4. wield immense power as vice-son-in-law or something
 

Queasy

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Aug 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: zinfamous

2: Her choosing to run for MAJOR political office when she has a young child with downs syndrome, a pregnant teen, and 3 other kids, is a horrible, horrible parenting decision. Though...I suppose she has nanny(ies)?

You're right. She was probably under the assumption that the media would do the time-honored thing and stay hands off children of candidates. She should have known that only the children of democrats are off-limits.

Besides, Sarah Palin should be at home...barefoot...like every other woman. Nevermind that her oldest son is leaving for the military shortly, her 17-year old will presumably have the support of the Palin family and that of her husband-to-be's family. Or that Sarah Palin is in fact married to another human being, a man, who can help with the child rearing of the remaining 14 year old, 7 year old, and infant.

Nope, married women with children shouldn't be allowed to work towards positions of power. At least the anti-abortion/pro-life, conservative ones.

Originally posted by: zinfamous
Again. This throws her abstinence-only policy in her face. That's the entire point. nothing more. You seem to agree that teaching abstinence only is a horrible idea. Many do.

Let's hope her daughter's little adventure drives that point home to her abstinence-only, conservative, family-values mother.
link

Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.

?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Baked
So much for her mom's strong conservative religious morals and values. Heh.

What are you talking about? If a 17 year really old wants to have sex, there is nothing that you can do as a parent.

So the point of abstinence-only education is what now?

Whats the point of DARE? Every kid gets told that drugs are bad, but what percentage of kids that end up using drugs? Should we just stop teaching it? You can raise a child perfectly and still watch them go down the crapper. If a 17 year old wants to have sex, they will.

Are you guys really this stupid when it comes to teenagers?

There's a big difference between teaching about abstinence and abstinence-only education.

Oh, and yes, DARE is a big fucking joke and not worth the government money that gets spent on the program.

I have no problem with educators teaching that abstinence is the only 100% certain way of not getting pregnant and not getting an STD. Because it's true!

But DARE is a joke, and so is abstinence-only education. My sex ed class taught us that if you weren't going to abstain, you had lots of birth control options, some of which you can stack up to be extra safe. And of course you can do things other than sexual intercourse like oral. It also discouraged the use of certain methods like "withdrawal" and the "rhythm method" since they're hardly effective.

Also, I hate those dumbass liberal bloggers who are inevitably going to lord this over them. Cripes. Double standard much? As long as the Democratic party stays away, though, it's cool.

Obama will stay away. He has a perfect history of staying clear of his conservative opponents and their self-destructive scandals. (Any of you guys remember Fitzgerald? the harbinger of Keyes? :p)

Of course, the rest of the party probably won't stay away. Obama has the enviable position of staying out of this one, while the rest of the party, "un-affiliated" organizations, and media have a field day.

Hell, Obama mentioned this morning that his own mother was 18 when she gave birth to him. Why would he attack that? Of course....it's not his mother's, nor his own view on family values and abstinence-only education that comes under question, is it? ;)
 

nageov3t

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: So
The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.

link

Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.

?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.

what's more, the schools in Alaska do *not* teach abstinence-only.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: So
The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.

link

Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.

?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.

who needs facts?
 

Queasy

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Aug 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: So
The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.

link

Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.

?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.

what's more, the schools in Alaska do *not* teach abstinence-only.

Yep. Clearly this is a failure of sex-ed in public schools.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: So
The point is, this woman is a textbook example of why abstinence only education is a terrible idea, and she doesn't have the mental flexibility to see that.

link

Palin said last month that no woman should have to choose between her career, education and her child. She is pro-contraception and said she?s a member of a pro-woman but anti-abortion group called Feminists for Life.

?I believe in the strength and the power of women, and the potential of every human life,? she said.

who needs facts?

not me, obviously. :D

seriously, I need a day to catch up on all this.

<--was out of the loop when it broke.

back to the point of her family, though. As I read it, she was claiming as early as last week(?) that she was 7 months pregnant, though thin as a rail? Seems like a clear attempt at cover-up.

I'm all for women empowering themselves, which is why I never can understand the conservatives that spew fire and brimstone over Hillary, who is clearly one of, if not the most educated and respected women in politics (note: respected within politics. I'm not talking about the simpletons who listen to talk radio, but the ultra-conservative senators who once her "enemy," now find her to be one of their strongest friends and allies. Consider senator Byrd, his testamonial and call for forgiveness when she became a senator, and his open admission that he considers her a great pal.) I'm all for women with families that can have a solid career, including positions of high power.

My point concerns the way that she has handled this from the start. or at least has been reported...
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
My point concerns the way that she has handled this from the start. or at least has been reported...

There's your keypoint right there. Should McCain and Palin revealed that Palin's daughter was pregnant when she was announced as the VP candidate on Friday? Possibly. In hindsight, it looks like the wise choice. But it is also possible that they didn't think it appropriate at the time.

However, Palin and McCain had to react because a nut-blogger at Daily Kos posted an out and out smear that Sarah Palin faked her pregnancy to cover up for Bristol. Because of this vicious lie which, for some reason, spread despite being ludicrous, Palin and her family had to reveal that her daughter was pregnant under less than ideal circumstances. The fact that the media has jumped all over this despite a long-standing tradition that candidate's children are off-limits is despicable.

Btw, that nut-blogger at Daily Kos....his post has since disappeared down the memory hole.

 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: zinfamous
My point concerns the way that she has handled this from the start. or at least has been reported...

There's your keypoint right there. Should McCain and Palin revealed that Palin's daughter was pregnant when she was announced as the VP candidate on Friday? Possibly. In hindsight, it looks like the wise choice. But it is also possible that they didn't think it appropriate at the time.

However, Palin and McCain had to react because a nut-blogger at Daily Kos posted an out and out smear that Sarah Palin faked her pregnancy to cover up for Bristol. Because of this vicious lie which, for some reason, spread despite being ludicrous, Palin and her family had to reveal that her daughter was pregnant under less than ideal circumstances.

Btw, that nut-blogger at Daily Kos....his post has since disappeared down the memory hole.

really? that's the only source of that?

fucking bloggers.

what's it gonna take to restore the media to the power, and ability to vet sources that it once had?