WHICH ONBOARD GPU is BETTER?

[PICOGAMER]

AMD Radeon HD 6310
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856107141

GeForce GT 610M (is the 1GB Videoram embedded and seperate from system ram?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856107127

Radeon HD 8330
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856173104

Intel HD 4000
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164003

i have a pico

http://www.zotac.com/en/products/mi...er/DESC/amount/10/section/specifications.html



but i cant game even 10 year old games on it, Battlefield 2, etc. only get like 12fps on it on high. I want it to be playable compareable with my

DESKTOP with
A6-6400K
8GB RAM
SSD
GTX 550TI

which one SHOULD I GET?
THANKS!

 

[ShintaiDK]

The HD4000.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6974/amd-kabini-review/4

Its also the fastest CPU without competition.

 

[LoveMachine]

Eliminate the first 1 completely. The second, not much better. I've used the HD4000 for some light gaming on older titles and it's performed fine (I have no way of quantifying "fine" however), and will certainly do better than the iGPU in your Zotac. I'm having trouble finding specs on the 8330, but my guess is the HD4000 would be better, but not by much.

 

[ShintaiDK]

In terms of the last 2.

 

[Blue_Max]

I've been checking out these things as well, as well as the same "embedded solutions" in ITX to throw in my Antec ISK to replace an Atom.

There's a sliiiiightly better AMD version than linked here that has a Radeon 8400 instead of 8330... but if I could find that i3 box in just an ITX embedded board w/ HD 4000/42/44/4600 graphics, I'd grab it in a heartbeat!

Even if the video speed were roughly equal, games and other apps will still greatly benefit from the faster CPU.

This guy is *fanless*! Combine it with a SSD it would be fantastic for streaming movies all day as well as the occasional light game on the big screen! Daaaang! Good price, too!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3W21UX5407&cm_re=3217u-_-9SIA3W21UX5407-_-Product

Too bad the IGP of these new J1900/J2900 processors isn't better...

 

[PICOGAMER]

so do you think this will be able to play Rise of Nations Perhaps? does anyone know Id go about enabling OPEN GL on these things? SUPER THANKS TO ShintaiDK! some tests have the kabini better off in bf3 for example, i thought the HD4000 performance is different on say a I3, vs I5, i7 ?

http://techreport.com/review/24856/amd-a4-5000-kabini-apu-reviewed/8

 

[positivedoppler]

The HD4000.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6974/amd-kabini-review/4

Its also the fastest CPU without competition.

You linked an i5.
The newegg one is an i3-3227u which is a gimped pos compared to most i5.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-3227U+@+1.90GHz


Closest comparison I can google is
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Proces...ni-Reference-Notebook-Tested/Testing-Setup-an


But I think the 610M would be the fastest.

 

[Blue_Max]

so do you think this will be able to play Rise of Nations Perhaps? does anyone know Id go about enabling OPEN GL on these things? SUPER THANKS TO ShintaiDK! some tests have the kabini better off in bf3 for example, i thought the HD4000 performance is different on say a I3, vs I5, i7 ?

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-4000.69168.0.html

These guys give you plenty of detail on "mobile" graphics, plus plenty of benchmarks for each. The Radeon 8400 is technically a bit faster in gaming, offset by a notably slower CPU.

 

[el etro]

The Radeon HD 8330 is great and is the closest to your GTX 550ti, HD 4000 will have better cpu performance, but after all i stay with the i3 3227u fanless PC that BlueMax pointed because the better CPU peformance.

 

[cyclohexane]

spend 50 bucks and get a discrete card

 

[Blue_Max]

I did some comparisons, the HD 4000 creams the 8330 in gaming as well... Elder Scrolls and Wolfenstein, for example, were DOUBLE the speed on the HD4000.

I didn't think it'd be THAT significant!


...and sometimes you can't just get a separate card. This ain't your everyday computer.

 

[PICOGAMER]

I did some comparisons, the HD 4000 creams the 8330 in gaming as well... Elder Scrolls and Wolfenstein, for example, were DOUBLE the speed on the HD4000.

I didn't think it'd be THAT significant!


...and sometimes you can't just get a separate card. This ain't your everyday computer.

it has double performance prolly because its running dual channel ram... hence double the bandwidth

 

[el etro]

it has double performance prolly because its running dual channel ram... hence double the bandwidth

GPU per GPU the R8330 is the better choice, problem is that the i3 CPU is so much strong at the point to interfere so much in games performance, specially in bad threaded games like Skyrim.

 

[ShintaiDK]

GPU per GPU the R8330 is the better choice, problem is that the i3 CPU is so much strong at the point to interfere so much in games performance, specially in bad threaded games like Skyrim.

You wastly overestimate the GPU in Kabini. Its alot slower than you think. Its only 128SPs at 500Mhz on a singlechannel.

 

[monstercameron]

You wastly overestimate the GPU in Kabini. Its alot slower than you think. Its only 128SPs at 500Mhz on a singlechannel.

maybe but el etro does have a point. Having a faster cpu with the kabini gpu would perform better.

 

[ShintaiDK]

maybe but el etro does have a point. Having a faster cpu with the kabini gpu would perform better.

Only to a certain point. The GPU is still limited to what it can do. So it wouldnt change much.

 

[el etro]

Only to a certain point. The GPU is still limited to what it can do. So it wouldnt change much.

Single-Channel is blowing the performance of the 128sp here.

maybe but el etro does have a point. Having a faster cpu with the kabini gpu would perform better.

Kabini GPU is much faster than the CPU, Surely.

 

[skipsneeky2]

HD4000 is capable,i could play my current favorite game being WOT at 720p on my t.v on low and get excellent performance that is bottlenecked quite often by my I7 cpu.I think even medium can be pulled off well.

I know CS:GO plays well too,720p medium stays above 60fps any given time.Not bad for a fps and possibly the bare minimum i could even suggest for this game.Not bad i think.

Cheaper options are AMD APU,those should blow the HD4000 away.

 

[Blue_Max]

You wastly overestimate the GPU in Kabini. Its alot slower than you think. Its only 128SPs at 500Mhz on a singlechannel.

Exactly. I even plugged the links earlier showing the HD4000 creaming the AMD solutions.

 

[MeldarthX]

Pico what are you trying to do?

I built micro system with 7600 APU that would do everything you want. But if you're only going with those choices; hd 4000; will be the fastest; not the prettiest...but budget dictates...