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KK

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Originally posted by: Eli

If you're doubting my car advice, please, by all means call me out on it. Don't say that I don't know what I'm talking about without presenting any examples though.

I'd like to voire dire you as to the extent of your expertise. What would the correct timing of a 1955 chevy belaire with a 325 engine be? :)
 

IGBT

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..I never had a prob wit fram but all the stories out here made me try another..Bosh. It seems better constructed but who knows.
 

BillyBatson

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i don't know anything about cars so.
however to my understand K&N are great quality filters, perhaps not the best depending on vehicle/use? but quality wise great
 

olds

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I use the K&N. They have a valve in them so that oil flows through but can't drain back out.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Eli

If you're doubting my car advice, please, by all means call me out on it. Don't say that I don't know what I'm talking about without presenting any examples though.

I'd like to voire dire you as to the extent of your expertise. What would the correct timing of a 1955 chevy belaire with a 325 engine be? :)
LOL....

That's the kinda stuff that I'm not an expert in, because I don't have lots of years of hands-on experiece actually working on many different cars.

I can still troubleshoot just as good as the next person.. Although it certainly isn't as concice as Roger usually was, due to the aforementioned lack of experience with many different cars...

I like to think that I know about engines in general.. I am not a mechanic in the strictest sense, it's not like I have a shop or anything... I just know and understand how engines work better than some.
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Eli

If you're doubting my car advice, please, by all means call me out on it. Don't say that I don't know what I'm talking about without presenting any examples though.

I'd like to voire dire you as to the extent of your expertise. What would the correct timing of a 1955 chevy belaire with a 325 engine be? :)
LOL....

That's the kinda stuff that I'm not an expert in, because I don't have lots of years of hands-on experiece actually working on many different cars.

I can still troubleshoot just as good as the next person.. Although it certainly isn't as concice as Roger usually was, due to the aforementioned lack of experience with many different cars...

I like to think that I know about engines in general.. I am not a mechanic in the strictest sense, it's not like I have a shop or anything... I just know and understand how engines work better than some.

It's a trick question anyway dude. That and it's a quote from My Cousin Vinny ;)
 

QuitBanningMe

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Eli

If you're doubting my car advice, please, by all means call me out on it. Don't say that I don't know what I'm talking about without presenting any examples though.

I'd like to voire dire you as to the extent of your expertise. What would the correct timing of a 1955 chevy belaire with a 325 engine be? :)

325? :)

It came with a 265 and a 235.
265 = 4 degrees BTDC
235 = 0 degrees
 

Insane3D

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
I use the K&N. They have a valve in them so that oil flows through but can't drain back out.

They all have those IIRC...some valves are just better than others...
 

cbehnken

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Originally posted by: batmang
the only reason i change mine every 3k, is cause i have a built honda. yes a honda, its not rice at all. click the link in my signature " the batmobile ", its a website dedicated to my car.

my oil is basically black by the time 3k miles rolls around, and my oil level gets pretty low by then, built honda motors... love oil. so much that your basically dry by 5k miles. 9k redlines do that.

I think it's quite more likely that bad/poorly fit rings and or bad valve seals do that.

My Stealth runs 8 K all the time and does not use oil with 145K on the clock.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: cbehnken
Fram is a very good brand. My whole family has used them for years.


Well i have removed a PILE of them that have collapesd and even seen some blow off.

Fram is junk. There are better filters that cost less. So you have no reason to use them,

 

OS

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I use to use honda OEMs and until fram/honeywell was all you could get from the dealer. I've cut apart the fram supplied honda OEM filters and they still have the trademark cardboard endcaps.

Used Purolator Pureones for a while, but reviews say the pressure drop is the highest out of all the premium filters. Since I drive hard, low oil pressure is probably bad.

Then switched to K&N, but that stupid bolt they weld to the end of the filter actually makes it harder for me to install and remove because I can't use my filter cap socket attachment.

Probably gonna get Bosch or next time.
 

Insane3D

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Originally posted by: OS
I use to use honda OEMs and until fram/honeywell was all you could get from the dealer. I've cut apart the fram supplied honda OEM filters and they still have the trademark cardboard endcaps.

Used Purolator Pureones for a while, but reviews say the pressure drop is the highest out of all the premium filters. Since I drive hard, low oil pressure is probably bad.

Then switched to K&N, but that stupid bolt they weld to the end of the filter actually makes it harder for me to install and remove because I can't use my filter cap socket attachment.

Probably gonna get Bosch or next time.

As far as oil pressure, can't you monitor it? How do you know it's low. It seems to me that low oil pressure would be reliant on many factors like oil pump, viscosity used, state of oil in the engine, etc. IF you were using a Pureone and your oil pressure wasn't any lower, then wouldn't the extra filtration be a good idea?
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
It's a trick question anyway dude. That and it's a quote from My Cousin Vinny ;)
:eek:

I guess that explains why I couldn't find anything about a Chevy 325 on Google.... LOL.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: OS
I use to use honda OEMs and until fram/honeywell was all you could get from the dealer. I've cut apart the fram supplied honda OEM filters and they still have the trademark cardboard endcaps.

Used Purolator Pureones for a while, but reviews say the pressure drop is the highest out of all the premium filters. Since I drive hard, low oil pressure is probably bad.

Then switched to K&N, but that stupid bolt they weld to the end of the filter actually makes it harder for me to install and remove because I can't use my filter cap socket attachment.

Probably gonna get Bosch or next time.

As far as oil pressure, can't you monitor it? How do you know it's low. It seems to me that low oil pressure would be reliant on many factors like oil pump, viscosity used, state of oil in the engine, etc. IF you were using a Pureone and your oil pressure wasn't any lower, then wouldn't the extra filtration be a good idea?
I really don't think the flow rate/pressure drop thing is a big deal. Your engine is never going to be starved for oil unless your oil pump goes out or there is insufficient oil in the crankcase.

All else being equal, the filter with the lowest flow is probably going to also filter the best.

That's why they're called full-flow.. And that's why ultra efficient oil filters aren't full flow; they're always bypass. It's a tradeoff....

But we're not talking a 50% drop here or anything, I don't think... so the better filtration is worth the lower flow, IMO. I am sure you could reach a point where your filtration is so good, the oil can't flow adequately, but our cheapie oil filters, even the best.. are a long way from that.
 

geogecko

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Didn't have time to read 9 pages of the thread, but here you go...

I use Purolator PureONE filters in both of my cars. They are one of the best, and cheaper than most other filters out there, plus, they are painted a cool metalic blue color.

Here is a reference, there are many more out there, and most of them recommend the PureONE filters.
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Filters.html

Oil color is no indication on when to change the oil.

Air Filters:
K&N air filters also give you better performance, at the cost of letting a little more crap get into your engine...your choice, better performance, or let crap get in the engine. I guess it's better than what people used to do, by removing the filter all together.
 

g8wayrebel

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It is clear from that picture that regular maintenance was the problem , not oil changes. A valve adjustment once or twice a decade would have prevented this sludgy mess...LOL.
 

DeMeo

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I've used FRAMs on several cars for many years. Never had a problem.

Maybe it makes a difference for NASCAR, but for the average Joe, I don't think so.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: DeMeo
I've used FRAMs on several cars for many years. Never had a problem.

Maybe it makes a difference for NASCAR, but for the average Joe, I don't think so.


Like I said above...

Well i have removed a PILE of them that have collapesd and even seen some blow off.

Fram is junk. There are better filters that cost less. So you have no reason to use them.