Originally posted by: jagec
Toyota has very good OEM filters.
YES FRAM IS THE WORST ! Toyota filters are with the extra 3$
Originally posted by: jagec
Toyota has very good OEM filters.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and the lucky thing about camrys.. filter right on top. easy as pie to replace.
Originally posted by: SuperSix
CTR Cup Holders
Not rice? You mention a cup holder as one of the mods!!
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: batmang
... i have a built honda. yes a honda, its not rice at all. click the link in my signature " the batmobile ", its a website dedicated to my car.
165hp/103tq on that is "built"? Newsflash - you'll lose to me in the family minivan. :laugh:
I don't even want to know how much money you blew on that, but I'll wager you could have built for boost for equal or less.
- M4H
Originally posted by: TwoBills
So, do we all agree now? Fram sucks. Napa gold/wix give you the best bang for the buck? That ok w/you Eli? Quitbanning me? OK then.
Oh, yeah. Nice ride, Batmang.
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and the lucky thing about camrys.. filter right on top. easy as pie to replace.
Unless it's a V6.. They SUCK! :|
Originally posted by: batmang
the only reason i change mine every 3k, is cause i have a built honda. yes a honda, its not rice at all. click the link in my signature " the batmobile ", its a website dedicated to my car.
my oil is basically black by the time 3k miles rolls around, and my oil level gets pretty low by then, built honda motors... love oil. so much that your basically dry by 5k miles. 9k redlines do that.
Originally posted by: batmang
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: batmang
the only reason i change mine every 3k, is cause i have a built honda. yes a honda, its not rice at all. click the link in my signature " the batmobile ", its a website dedicated to my car.
my oil is basically black by the time 3k miles rolls around, and my oil level gets pretty low by then, built honda motors... love oil. so much that your basically dry by 5k miles. 9k redlines do that.
You aren't very informed about oil, in my opinion, if you think color is the indicator of when to change oil.
has eli chimed in yet?
honda motors with mods like i have, EAT oil, its been proven many times. and i know about this, i own a honda.
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Then the engine isn't "built".
Also there is no reason for it to be using oil at the rate you say.
My engine is "built" and if it loses a drop I haven't noticed.
Doesn't say a lot for honda.
Yep.. And on the Camry, the filter is at a 45º angle upside down....Originally posted by: feralkid
This site names Mobil 1, Pure One and Amsoil as best.
There are few filters that really get the tiniest (and most damaging) particles out.
Interesting to note that many common filters have poor drainback valves. Position of oil filter on engine makes this more (or less) of an issue; e.g. if your filter is not slanted downward or inverted, this would not matter.
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Fram's are garbage. Their flow rates are atrocious.
Some of the best filters are made by Motorcraft.
Best for the money is the K&N
What orifice are you pulling this info out of?
Motorcraft have horrible flow ratings, Fram has decent flow but bad media and anti-drainback valves, and K&N, while they flow good, are not worth the extra $$$, they don't flow any worse or better than most decent "cheaper" filters.
VERY interesting info here:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb...p?ubb=forum;f=6
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
Originally posted by: Deleted member 139972
Filter is a filter.. Don't mattter to me who makes it
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Fram's are garbage. Their flow rates are atrocious.
Some of the best filters are made by Motorcraft.
Best for the money is the K&N
What orifice are you pulling this info out of?
Motorcraft have horrible flow ratings, Fram has decent flow but bad media and anti-drainback valves, and K&N, while they flow good, are not worth the extra $$$, they don't flow any worse or better than most decent "cheaper" filters.
VERY interesting info here:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb...p?ubb=forum;f=6
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
So, how about some links on how bad Motorcraft filters are? From everything I've heard, they are very good.
Oh, and your first link with "very interesting info" doesn't work...
Edit:
Just did a search in the BITOG forums, and everything I've been reading so far rates Motorcraft as excellent filters. The FL1A I use is supposed to be one of the best...
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Fram's are garbage. Their flow rates are atrocious.
Some of the best filters are made by Motorcraft.
Best for the money is the K&N
What orifice are you pulling this info out of?
Motorcraft have horrible flow ratings, Fram has decent flow but bad media and anti-drainback valves, and K&N, while they flow good, are not worth the extra $$$, they don't flow any worse or better than most decent "cheaper" filters.
VERY interesting info here:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb...p?ubb=forum;f=6
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
So, how about some links on how bad Motorcraft filters are? From everything I've heard, they are very good.
Oh, and your first link with "very interesting info" doesn't work...
Edit:
Just did a search in the BITOG forums, and everything I've been reading so far rates Motorcraft as excellent filters. The FL1A I use is supposed to be one of the best...
No, they're not bad. I think you misread their post. They're very good filters. They're low flowing / high filtratration though. There's often a balance between filtration and flow. It's relatively difficult to do high flow highly efficient filtration while holding the size of the filter constant (ignoring, for this example, increasing the number of pleats in the filter material).
"We finally made 370-375 hp on nitrous," says Bothwell, "but the engine was really pissed off."
