Which of these sentences is proper grammar?

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rayray2

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Jimmy, (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Jimmy (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Does putting the comma after the parenthesis eliminate the need to put it after the name as well?
 
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jagec

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Originally posted by: rayray2
Jimmy, (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Jimmy (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Does putting the comma after the parenthesis eliminate the need to put it after the name as well?
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the second one is MORE grammatically correct, but why not just use the first and eliminate the parenthesis?
 
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: rayray2
Jimmy, (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Jimmy (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Does putting the comma after the parenthesis eliminate the need to put it after the name as well?
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the second one is MORE grammatically correct, but why not just use the first and eliminate the parenthesis?
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:thumbsup:
 
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NikPreviousAcct

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Well, you have to determine whether the bit in parentheses is necessary for clarification on which Jimmy you're talking about. If Jimmy is the only Jimmy in the story, then clarification on which Jimmy being referred to is not needed and, therefore, needs to be surrounded by commas. If there is more than one Jimmy and the bit in parentheses is required to define which one is being referred to, no commas are used.

Parentheses should not be used in that phrase at all.
 
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maziwanka

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: rayray2
Jimmy, (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Jimmy (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Does putting the comma after the parenthesis eliminate the need to put it after the name as well?
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the second one is MORE grammatically correct, but why not just use the first and eliminate the parenthesis?
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boo yah
 
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NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: rayray2
The parenthesis have to be there in the sentence I'm typing. The sentence I used as an example was bad.

How about this one?

Anandtech, (www.anandtech.com), is a great site!

Anandtech (www.anandtech.com), is a great site!
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In this case, parentheses are required. Your second example, with the comma after Anandtech missing, is the correct verbage.

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Wait, nevermind! I'm wrong. There should be no commas in that at all.
 
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TheNinja

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Originally posted by: rayray2
Jimmy, (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Jimmy (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Does putting the comma after the parenthesis eliminate the need to put it after the name as well?
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Jimmy, who is currently out of a job, nefs on AT all of the time.
OR
Jimmy (who is currently out of a job) nefs on AT all of the time.
First one is better though in this case.


Anandtech, www.anandtech.com, is a great site!
OR
Anandtech (www.anandtech.com) is a great site!
Second one is better in this case.
 
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rayray2

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Okay let's try this one last time.

ABC Company, (www.abc.com), a leading software company, has aquired your business.

ABC Company (www.abc.com), a leading software company, has aquired your business.

Comma after the company name or not?
 
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jagec

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Originally posted by: rayray2
Okay let's try this one last time.

ABC Company, (www.abc.com), a leading software company, has aquired your business.

ABC Company (www.abc.com), a leading software company, has aquired your business.

Comma after the company name or not?
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the second one.

I know what you're getting at, and the answer is that you DON'T ever put commas before AND after parenthesis.
 
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Dubb

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Originally posted by: rayray2
Okay let's try this one last time.

ABC Company, (www.abc.com), a leading software company, has aquired your business.

ABC Company (www.abc.com), a leading software company, has aquired your business.

Comma after the company name or not?
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the second one...try to imagine how it would read without the bit in parentheses

ABC Company,, a leading software company, has aquired your business.

or

ABC Company, a leading software company, has aquired your business.
 
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NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: WarDemon666
semicolons are your friend.

my teacher always says that when people make comma splices
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Semicolons are for conjoining two like-typic sentences, not clarifying a subject with a small idea within the same sentence.
 
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WarDemon666

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: WarDemon666
semicolons are your friend.

my teacher always says that when people make comma splices
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Semicolons are for conjoining two like-typic sentences, not clarifying a subject with a small idea within the same sentence.
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shh. i know that. im just SAYYYINGGG : my teacher always says that when people make comma splices

:)
 
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NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: WarDemon666
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: WarDemon666
semicolons are your friend.

my teacher always says that when people make comma splices
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Semicolons are for conjoining two like-typic sentences, not clarifying a subject with a small idea within the same sentence.
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shh. i know that. im just SAYYYINGGG : my teacher always says that when people make comma splices

:)
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:p
 
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jjones

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Originally posted by: Dubb
Originally posted by: rayray2
Okay let's try this one last time.

ABC Company, (www.abc.com), a leading software company, has aquired your business.

ABC Company (www.abc.com), a leading software company, has aquired your business.

Comma after the company name or not?
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the second one...try to imagine how it would read without the bit in parentheses

ABC Company,, a leading software company, has aquired your business.

or

ABC Company, a leading software company, has aquired your business.
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Good example. Normally when using parentheses you should punctuate as if that part did not exist in the sentence at all.

 
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Mill

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: rayray2
Jimmy, (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Jimmy (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Does putting the comma after the parenthesis eliminate the need to put it after the name as well?
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Jimmy -- who is currently out of a job -- nefs on AT all of the time.
 
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NikPreviousAcct

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Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: rayray2
Jimmy, (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Jimmy (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Does putting the comma after the parenthesis eliminate the need to put it after the name as well?
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Jimmy -- who is currently out of a job -- nefs on AT all of the time.
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hahaha

You're funny, Mill.

err... :confused:
 
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Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: rayray2
Jimmy, (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Jimmy (who is currently out of a job), nefs on AT all of the time.

Does putting the comma after the parenthesis eliminate the need to put it after the name as well?
Click to expand...


Jimmy -- who is currently out of a job -- nefs on AT all of the time.
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hahaha

You're funny, Mill.

err... :confused:
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You are saying that isn't correct?
 
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