Which of these PSUs should I get?

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http://www.newegg.com/product/...x?item=N82E16817341010
OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V CB, CE, CSA, UL, FCC - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/product/...x?item=N82E16817139005
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CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC, CCC - Retail


I want to get the first one, just because it is cheaper, and has roughly the same amount of wattage, but I just want to make sure that OCZ is a reliable PSU maker, as I already know that Corsair generally makes reliable products.

In addition, would that be enough power to power this setup? (Dialup friendly: 640GB HDD, 8800GTS, Q9450, DS3l-P35), or would I need more?
http://secure.newegg.com/WishL...WishListNumber=9448728
 

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I'd definitely pick the corsair, but pick a smaller one. A Corsair 450 or 550 would be more than enough.
 

killster1

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hah corsair hx620 is like 115$ at buy.com id get that one.. read the reviews for the 650.. bad solder splashes 1 second uptime! i guess every psu company has problems but for high price ones they should check them better.. or check them at all..
what about this psu if you want to go cheap?

http://www.hypermicro.com/product.asp?pf_id=PSSS003

no idea how good its parts are but the only review i could find showed it didnt flux under load.. and looks nice.. i bought one for 60$ shipped figure i will give it away if it sux!
 

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Originally posted by: killster1
hah corsair hx620 is like 115$ at buy.com id get that one.. read the reviews for the 650.. bad solder splashes 1 second uptime! i guess every psu company has problems but for high price ones they should check them better.. or check them at all..
what about this psu if you want to go cheap?


are you talking about the Corsair TX650? Because that is the same exact PSU as the HX620, without modular cabling. What reviews would you be talking about? The only review I have seen of the TX650, shows it is just as good as the HX620, which it should be, as it is the same PSU.

I hope you aren't talking about the reviews on newegg...because hopefully everyone on this board by now knows that newegg reviews are a complete joke. You can find glowing reviews on every piece of junk on there and you can find horrible reviews on even the best quality products. Newegg doesn't even require you to buy the product to review it. Ergo Newegg reviews are junk.
 

killster1

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ah have had this discussion with another person before... my main point is .. YOU think they are lying? it really didnt come DOA they just decided to make it up? if i had to bet id say there is a diff between the hx620 and the tx650.. i know the tx750 and hx620 are way diff but never used a tx650..
 

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Originally posted by: killster1
ah have had this discussion with another person before... my main point is .. YOU think they are lying? it really didnt come DOA they just decided to make it up? if i had to bet id say there is a diff between the hx620 and the tx650.. i know the tx750 and hx620 are way diff but never used a tx650..

I believe the main thrust of his question is where the review came from. As he stated, if it was a Newegg review it doesn't mean much. Plenty of reviews on Newegg and other hardware sites are from people who don't know how to troubleshoot things properly. They'll say the PSU was DOA when they forgot to plug in the +12V connector, or their motherboard was really the problem.
 

killster1

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your right my bad i bet 100% of the psu's work and people just make it up or are stupid.. its just impossible that they would be DOA, or have solder splashes.. they must need glasses too.. most of the DOA people said they switched original psu back in and where up and running..

im not saying that i trust them but they always have me second guessing things im buying.. that was just the reviews for the 650tx the 620hx have horror stories as well in the reviews..

ah your the ti83 calc person.. you never answered why they couldnt use cheaper calcs like the ti81 ( i have 3 sitting in a box)
 

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Originally posted by: killster1
ah have had this discussion with another person before... my main point is .. YOU think they are lying? it really didnt come DOA they just decided to make it up? if i had to bet id say there is a diff between the hx620 and the tx650.. i know the tx750 and hx620 are way diff but never used a tx650..

Some of them may not be lying... there will be some DOA with ANY tech product, I defy you to find a product reviewed on newegg with over 40 reviews that doesn't have a few DOA reviews. OF course some of them are lying, haven't you seen people post reviews that even admit they have never had the product, but heard from a friend.

If you steer clear of products that have DOA reviews on newegg...then your computer builds must be pretty sparse and use some off the wall stuff that no one else is buying.

Also, have you never heard of geurrilla marketing.

Like I said the TX650 is the same PSU as the HX620...

of course the TX750 and HX620 are different. The TX750 is made by Channel Well and the HX620 is made by Seasonic. But the TX650 and HX620 are both made by Seasonic and jonnyguru even stated he didn't bother to do a review of the TX650 because he already reviewed the HX620 and they are the same thing.
 

killster1

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/...eoOnlyMark=False&Page=

ok to start off with there is a review list of psu with 0 doa ( i own 5 of these psu's none have died yet and 0 came doa) there is two reviews that say it died after 1 year and 1 month of 365 usage.. so there are items that have not had doa reviews with over 40..

and on that note i prefer not to even buy new, id rather buy used to ensure there is no doa and funky problems also is better price always.. haha..

here is what corsair says about the changes in hx

Corsair has engineered the HX620W with features such as whisper quiet thermally controlled 120mm fan, up to 84% high efficiency, combined 50A on triple +12V rails,

so it does have some diff settings like 3 rails and diff temp settings for the fan.. but its prob all same innards..

fun review for the hx620
"Cons: I have never seen a bad power supply do this before, but the first one I got (not from Newegg) completely obliterated my first two MoBos (started a fire immediately). Not sure how that got past the quality control people, but I have to knock the score a couple eggs because of that. I got a third MoBo and second Power Supply, and it works fine now. I honestly thought it was a bad MoBo at first because of the quality of this PS, but I was wrong. Also, the cords are a little flimsy, but they are also small, so its a give and take thing."

"Cons: Gets hot. Real HOT. 120mm fan spins slow. BIOS & digital multimeter say +12 and +3.3 rails run high; +12 is a constant 12.28V and +3.3 varies between 3.39V and 3.42V depending on load. After power outage (or flipping the rear power toggle off) on next power-up the fan makes a clicking sound. Whacking the fan through the rear honey-comb grate with an extension straw from a can of compressed air seems to fix that...doesn't happen after power-off or soft-off (S1-S5). Oh, and never got my 40.00 rebate."

another reviewer says the cables are short and wont fit in full atx tower (90% my pc's are full tower)
 

HOOfan 1

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Originally posted by: killster1
so it does have some diff settings like 3 rails and diff temp settings for the fan.. but its prob all same innards..

nope...HX620 is also only a single rail, despite that the label says three rails. Go read jonnyguru's review of Paul Johnson's over at HardOCP.

Also there would be no changes in the HX as compared to the TX, as the HX came out about a year before the TX.

If you want to base your decisions on whether to buy a PSU or not on a newegg review, that is your perogative. I am just saying people should take them with a grain of salt at least. I personally ignore them and read reviews by professional and decent reviewers like Oklahoma Wolf and Madmatt Jonnyguru.com. Paul Johnson at Hardocp, SkyMTL at hardwarecanucks and Gabriel Torress at HardwareSecrets.

I found a DOA review for one of the Corsairs that said he would replace it with a PC Power and Cooling...well guess what, many of them are also built by Seasonic on basically the same platform as the Corsair TX650 and HX620.

Some people obviously have motives, just like ATI fanboys that want to post FUD in a discussion on the GT200 or nvidia fanboys who want to post FUD in the RV770 discussion. When reviews are written by Jon Q. Public, you can never take them all at face value.

I personally wouldn't buy a used PSU either, unless I knew exactly how it was used and how long it was used. Capacitors age and output falls, especially if a PSU is run long and hard.
 

killster1

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the animal how do you know zalman does test them before shipping? cant believe corsair wouldn't test it before hand. as far as used i dont care if it was used long and hard usually when i buy .. i get a hardly used one and take my chances altho most my builds are gifts to people so why not buy used

for my next psu ive been looking at bfg with lifetime warranty es 800watter even tho its 190$ it would be nice to know lifetime warranty
 

HOOfan 1

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Originally posted by: killster1
the animal how do you know zalman does test them before shipping? cant believe corsair wouldn't test it before hand. as far as used i dont care if it was used long and hard usually when i buy .. i get a hardly used one and take my chances altho most my builds are gifts to people so why not buy used

for my next psu ive been looking at bfg with lifetime warranty es 800watter even tho its 190$ it would be nice to know lifetime warranty
Corsair, or at least Seasonic DOES test them before shipping out. People get DOA Zalmans too...some of them just don't post on newegg.

Apparently you are not understanding that ALL tech products are subject to DOA, and it has nothing to do with not testing them before they go out. Tech products are senesitive and most of them that are recieved DOA, are received that way because they were damaged in shipping AFTER they left the factory.

That is my final word on it, this thread is pretty off topic by now.
 

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My point is that I could write a DOA review on newegg even though I don't own and have never used that PSU.