which of these older cpu's

[bpjz24]

3500 NewCastle that doesn't support SSE3
2210.4 core
bus 200.9
HT link 1004.7 MHz
stepping 0
technology 0.13um

and a

3400 Venice that DOES support SS3
Bus 200.9
HT link 803.7 MHz
stepping 2
technology 90 nm

I know one is slower, but i dont know much about SSE3, does it help in gaming, etc? necessary? just looking for a rundown in general.










CPUID Manufacturer AuthenticAMD
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
CPUID Revision 00000FF0h
Extended CPUID Revision 00000FF0h
AMD Brand ID 010Dh (Athlon 64 3500+)
Platform ID CDh (Socket 939)
IA CPU Serial Number Unknown
HTT / CMP Units 0 / 0

Instruction Set:
64-bit x86 Extension Supported
AMD 3DNow! Supported
AMD 3DNow! Professional Supported
AMD Enhanced 3DNow! Supported
AMD Extended MMX Supported
Cyrix Extended MMX Not Supported
IA-64 Not Supported
IA MMX Supported
IA SSE Supported
IA SSE 2 Supported
IA SSE 3 Not Supported
CLFLUSH Instruction Supported
CMPXCHG8B Instruction Supported
CMPXCHG16B Instruction Not Supported
Conditional Move Instruction Supported
FEMMS Instruction Not Supported
MONITOR / MWAIT Instruction Not Supported

CPUID Features:
36-bit Page Size Extension Supported
Advanced Cryptography Engine Not Supported
Alternate Instruction Set Not Supported
Automatic Clock Control Not Supported
CPL Qualified Debug Store Not Supported
Debug Trace Store Not Supported
Debugging Extension Supported
Enhanced SpeedStep Technology Not Supported
Fast Save & Restore Supported
Fast System Call Supported
Hyper-Threading Technology Not Supported
L1 Context ID Not Supported
Local APIC On Chip Supported
LongRun Not Supported
LongRun Table Interface Not Supported
Machine-Check Architecture Supported
Machine-Check Exception Supported
Memory Type Range Registers Supported
Model Specific Registers Supported
No-Execute Page Protection Supported
Page Attribute Table Supported
Page Global Extension Supported
Page Size Extension Supported
Pending Break Event Not Supported
Physical Address Extension Supported
Processor Duty Cycle Control Not Supported
Processor Serial Number Not Supported
Random Number Generator Not Supported
Self-Snoop Not Supported
Thermal Monitor Not Supported
Thermal Monitor 2 Not Supported
Time Stamp Counter Supported
Virtual Mode Extension Supported

Enhanced Power Management:
Frequency ID Control Supported
Software Thermal Control Not Supported
Temperature Sensing Diode Supported
Thermal Monitoring Not Supported
Thermal Trip Supported
Voltage ID Control Supported


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CPUID Properties:
CPUID Manufacturer AuthenticAMD
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
CPUID Revision 00020FF2h
Extended CPUID Revision 00020FF2h
Platform ID 00h (Unknown)
IA CPU Serial Number Unknown
HTT / CMP Units 0 / 0

Instruction Set:
64-bit x86 Extension Supported
AMD 3DNow! Supported
AMD 3DNow! Professional Supported
AMD Enhanced 3DNow! Supported
AMD Extended MMX Supported
Cyrix Extended MMX Supported
IA-64 Not Supported
IA MMX Supported
IA SSE Supported
IA SSE 2 Supported
IA SSE 3 Supported
CLFLUSH Instruction Supported
CMPXCHG8B Instruction Supported
CMPXCHG16B Instruction Not Supported
Conditional Move Instruction Supported
FEMMS Instruction Not Supported
MONITOR / MWAIT Instruction Not Supported

CPUID Features:
36-bit Page Size Extension Supported
Advanced Cryptography Engine Not Supported
Alternate Instruction Set Not Supported
Automatic Clock Control Not Supported
CPL Qualified Debug Store Not Supported
Debug Trace Store Not Supported
Debugging Extension Supported
Enhanced SpeedStep Technology Not Supported
Fast Save & Restore Supported
Fast System Call Supported
Hyper-Threading Technology Not Supported
L1 Context ID Not Supported
Local APIC On Chip Supported
LongRun Not Supported
LongRun Table Interface Not Supported
Machine-Check Architecture Supported
Machine-Check Exception Supported
Memory Type Range Registers Supported
Model Specific Registers Supported
No-Execute Page Protection Supported
Page Attribute Table Supported
Page Global Extension Supported
Page Size Extension Supported
Pending Break Event Not Supported
Physical Address Extension Supported
Processor Duty Cycle Control Not Supported
Processor Serial Number Not Supported
Random Number Generator Not Supported
Self-Snoop Not Supported
Thermal Monitor Not Supported
Thermal Monitor 2 Not Supported
Time Stamp Counter Supported
Virtual Mode Extension Supported

Enhanced Power Management:
Frequency ID Control Supported
Software Thermal Control Supported
Temperature Sensing Diode Supported
Thermal Monitoring Supported
Thermal Trip Supported
Voltage ID Control Supported

 

[SunDevils06]

If I had a choice between the two, I would go with the 3400+ Venice core. I have had the Athlon 64 3000+ which runs at 2 ghz for years. I've overclocked it and the difference of 2 ghz and 2.2 ghz are minimal and not noticeable outside of benchmarks to me. With the Venice, you'll get a 90nm chips that runs cooler and uses less electricity as well as SSE 3. I also want to say that I remember them overclocking better than the Newcastle cores (if that's something you're into). Are this both for socket 939, if so, I believe they should both have the 1000 mhz HT link, someone feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken

 

[bpjz24]

no, the 3400 does not have 1000 HT link, its that oddball HT link 800. that fact and the fact that it has SSE3 and the 3500 doesnt, i just dont know which makes more/less a difference

yes, both are 939

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'd go with the chip that has SSE3, myself.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
I'd go with the chip that has SSE3, myself.

Why, isn't this only used in encoding/decoding?

 

[Zap]

I would go with the 3400+ since it is basically a 3500+ with lower HT speed. AMD decided that this speed difference was "worth" 100 in "+" points, but I think in most cases there isn't much difference.