Which of the Presidential Candidates is Best Able to Understand What our troops are Facing Abroad

Strk

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Well, obvious answer would be Clark or Kerry since they are the only two who have been in combat.

As for who is best to handle the mess we're in, well, I'm still deciding on that one.
 

kage69

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Bush can't even form complete sentences and someone here voted for him understanding what our troops are facing? Riiiiight...
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Czar
I understand if people voted for Clark or Kerry, but why Bush?

Because some people like to base their vote soley on political party, regardless of who the actual candidate is.
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: kage69
Bush can't even form complete sentences and someone here voted for him understanding what our troops are facing? Riiiiight...

That sort of crack is unneccessary and precludes serious discussion.
 

tnitsuj

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Would someone who voted for the president please sound off and explain why?? Thanks.
 

Tom

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I'd say the larger truth is that none of these candidates, or almost any of us, can really know what they are facing.

I think we expect too much of them, but being who they are they hang in there.
 

alchemize

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I'd agree with Parrot. None of them understand.

Bush was in the military ages ago. So was Kerry, and he was in a totally different kind of war, a totally different military and a totally different attitude in the states.
Clark was very insulated, and he isn't well respected by the common military. Dean and Edwards? Heh.

Maybe, just maybe, Clark is more in touch than the rest, but I doubt it.
 

CaptnKirk

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He saw his version with his own eyes.
At the time I'm sure it was startling.

Boredom - with shrieking fits of terror in between boredoms.
 

SuperTool

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As someone who was actually served in a politically motivated war with shaky justification and no clear exit strategy, instead of starting one, I think Kerry is best able to understand what the troops are facing abroad.
 

SuperTool

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Unless of course by President Bush you mean President George Herbert Walker Bush 41, who probably understands pretty well too.
 

mfs378

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Clark and Kerry were the only ones ever to have been in combat. That should preclude votes for any of the other candidates.

Kerry served in Vietnam, and was lightly injured three times. He returned home before his tour of duty was complete because the regulations allowed this. After the war, Kerry protested against it in Washington, and eventually moved into politics.

Clark was shot four times in an ambush in Vietnam. Despite his injuries, he remained in command of his troops, who successfully engaged the enemy and drove them away. Clark went home on a stretcher. He had to teach himself to walk again. He remained in the military, rising in rank. He became a four star general. He was supreme allied commander of NATO. He led the war in Kosovo, which involved coordinating with foreign leaders. In one instance, Clark was travelling in a convoy when an APC fell off a cliff. At night and under gunfire, Clark rappeled down the mountainside in an attempt to aid the three passengers in the vehicle at great personal risk to himself.

Kerry served well, but the answer to your question is Clark.
 

heartsurgeon

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Clark and Kerry were the only ones ever to have been in combat. That should preclude votes for any of the other candidates.
Whaaat???
I got news for ya buddy..that's not what the Constitution says..
besides, what about your buddy Clinton..he was blowin weed over in England while he was protesting the war....and he decided not to honor his obligation to the military by backing out of his promise to join the reserves, in exchange for a draft deferment...didn't "preclude" other liberals for voting for Clinton over two war veterans with impresive records, Bush 1, and Dole. I'm pretty sure the only "combat" Gore every saw was with the wife...
 

mfs378

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

Whaaat???
I got news for ya buddy..that's not what the Constitution says..
besides, what about your buddy Clinton..he was blowin weed over in England while he was protesting the war....and he decided not to honor his obligation to the military by backing out of his promise to join the reserves, in exchange for a draft deferment...didn't "preclude" other liberals for voting for Clinton over two war veterans with impresive records, Bush 1, and Dole. I'm pretty sure the only "combat" Gore every saw was with the wife...

A vote in this poll.
 
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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Clark and Kerry were the only ones ever to have been in combat. That should preclude votes for any of the other candidates.
Whaaat???
I got news for ya buddy..that's not what the Constitution says..
besides, what about your buddy Clinton..he was blowin weed over in England while he was protesting the war....and he decided not to honor his obligation to the military by backing out of his promise to join the reserves, in exchange for a draft deferment...didn't "preclude" other liberals for voting for Clinton over two war veterans with impresive records, Bush 1, and Dole. I'm pretty sure the only "combat" Gore every saw was with the wife...

Clinton was a freakin Rhodes Scholar. Good enough reason to not go fight in a war, IMO.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Czar
anyone of those 7 now could explain why you voted for bush?

The republican party has been strong on defense and tried to make sure the military gets what it needs. The democratic party for the most part has tried the deny military funding. Bush has raised military pay and made sure the military is funded.

Kerry on the other hand has voted against many military spending packages for new systems and modernization of old ones. He also voted against that $87 billion to take care of those in Iraq and Afghaninstan right now.


Not that hard to figure out.
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: mfs378
Kerry served well, but the answer to your question is Clark.

I agree with that. I didnt know some of that stuff you posted about Clark though. I knew he was wounded in Vietnam, but I didnt know about that story in Kosovo.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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This Poll is weighted to the obvious, Clark or Kerry. Bush can barely prove that he fulfilled his obligations in the National Guard, nevermind know what someone in a war is going through.
 

burnedout

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Understanding: First, General Clark then Senator Kerry in that order. Why? General Clark was an infantryman involved with similar extended combat operations. No further explanation is necessary - period.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: burnedout
Understanding: First, General Clark then Senator Kerry in that order. Why? General Clark was an infantryman involved with similar extended combat operations. No further explanation is necessary - period.
I agree. Only the most fawning partisan hack could believe Bush understands the troops better than the two men on the list that actually served. Period.