Which Memory

[Chiefnoalittle]

Hello,
I am looking to purchace a new AMD system..
XP3200 (AMD Athlon XP 3200+ "Barton", 400MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor - Retail)
MOBO (ASUS nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU, Model "A7N8X-E Deluxe)
And am unsure which memory to go with , I was told to get 3500 (433mhrz) momory instead of 3200(400mhrz) but the price jump is a bit large , here are two brands Ii decided to choose from (below) is there going to be much of a difference between the two ? can someone educate me in my decision ,maybe you can direct me to different brands .
by the way if it matters this system will be mainly for gaming.


Kingston HyperX Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3500 Specification
Manufacturer: Kingston
Speed: DDR433(PC3500)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-3-3-7-1T
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.5GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820144102 $133.00


OCZ Performance Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200
Specification
Manufacturer: OCZ
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-3-3-6
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Special Features: Ultra Low Noise shielded PCB
Warranty: Lifetime more info> $105.00

 

[nick1985]

mushkin

 

[Chiefnoalittle]

Which Model ?

 

[nick1985]

pc-3500 level I

 

[Dman877]

I know this wasn't your question but why are you getting the barton 3200? A A64 isn't much more expensive and the it's not like the xp3200 oc's well...

 

[Chiefnoalittle]

I've heard there are compatiability issue's with various programs including XP , that is probably why it is comprable in price i am guessing.
besides there really aren't any 64 bit programs out there yet , i will wait till there are more games made in 64bit.
i am not sure about the architechture of the two chips though, being that one is better then the other.

 

[Monoman]

Originally posted by: Chiefnoalittle
I've heard there are compatiability issue's with various programs including XP , that is probably why it is comprable in price i am guessing. besides there really aren't any 64 bit programs out there yet , i will wait till there are more games made in 64bit. i am not sure about the architechture of the two chips though, being that one is better then the other.

only onder 64bit OS everything else runs fine.

my vote goes for the OCZ and it runds great with my K8V Deluxe and 3200+ but I say get the A64. It's much faster than the Barton 3200+

 

[Super56K]

Are you planning on running your processor and ram above 200fsb? If your not then it's just wasted money to get anything above pc3200. Even then that OCZ memory would propably go above 200fsb quite easily.

 

[Chad]

OCZ Enhanced Latency Series Dual Channel Gold Revision 2 DDR PC-3700

I got ^^^ some and it is absolutely amazing RAM.

Runs at 466 at 2.5, 3, 3, 5 and I can go higher (much) but am limited by my CPU.

 

[Chiefnoalittle]

Thanks all , I will probably go with the Kingston brand , a little more but it sounds like it may be better for overclocking ,I may or may not overclock ,I am sure it will be fine for now (at least for 6-9 months ) that seems to be the time that PC parts become outdated (slow).
One other thing though , can anyone explain what the Cas Latency #'s mean ? i know what the first number means but what abouit the rest. and does the Kinston #'s represent a better set of number's then the OCZ brand?

Kingston HyperX Series
Cas Latency: 2-3-3-7-1T

OCZ Performance Series
Cas Latency: 2-3-3-6

 

[EngenZerO]

mushkin 222 special (pc3200), I believe its still ridicously cheap and newegg and is better than level 1.

 

[Chiefnoalittle]

Ridicously cheap ??? it is going for 160 smacker's for one 512 chip
do i need to be looking somewhere else for this ram ? this was on New Egg.



Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 Black Hi Perf "222 Special"
(limit 5 per customer)

Specification
Manufacturer: Mushkin
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-2-2 1T
Support Voltage: 2.5V-2.75V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime

Model#: 991154
Item#: N82E16820146284

Rating: Vote(s): 13 Review(s): 9

 

[Chiefnoalittle]

Oh wait !! I just scrolled down a bit farther and they sold a duel pack for $ 244.00



Mushkin 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 "222 Special" Dual Pack - Retail (limit 5 per customer)

Specification
Manufacturer: Mushkin
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-2-2
Support Voltage: 2.5V-2.75V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime $244.00

Model#: 991156
Item#: N82E16820146288

 

[EngenZerO]

sorry forgot to mention that you should buy the 1GB(2x512) kit...the regular 512 is 160, but the 1GB is 244.

Mushkin 222

 

[EngenZerO]

yep that is the correct one... . mine should be on my doorstep tonight. unfourtanitly I wont be able to use it till may, which is when I build my PC, LOL.

 

[high]

ocz >> mushkin

 

[EngenZerO]

Originally posted by: high
ocz >> mushkin

you really must be high,

 

[Chiefnoalittle]

Cool guess that will work for me then, Muskin it is , thatnks ofr your input EngenZer0.
by the way could you recomend a good MOBO for the 64bit AMD chip ?

 

[EngenZerO]

Originally posted by: Chiefnoalittle
Cool guess that will work for me then, Muskin it is , thatnks ofr your input EngenZer0.
by the way could you recomend a good MOBO for the 64bit AMD chip ?

. dont get me wrong kingston and ocz are good but...I personally like the mushkin line.

from the current selection of 754 mobos out their and research I have done....if I had to build at this moment I would probably get the MSI KT8-Neo FIS2R. Make sure you know that sometimes the VIA boards are known to be problematic when it comes to ram you may not be able to get the 222 the mushkin can deliever and have to degrade it to 232 with the A64 line

but if you can I would try to wait a week or two till the Nforce-250 boards come out from the Mobo manufactures. Based of the review on the front page today, I would rather have one of those.

again this is just just my humble opinion. you may want to visit amdmb.com and do some research to help make a more sound decision.

edit...btw here is a good article to read on what the rest of the timings on memory mean.

Memory Article

 

[Chiefnoalittle]

You have been very helpful , thanks a-lot.
I am in no hurry I will probably do like you suggested and wait for the new 250 boards.
thanks again.

 

[EngenZerO]

Originally posted by: Chiefnoalittle
You have been very helpful , thanks a-lot.
I am in no hurry I will probably do like you suggested and wait for the new 250 boards.
thanks again.

np... I just fuffiled my quota to be nice for the month, now I can go back to being a arsehole, .