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Which Laptop CPU is Better? T4500 or T3300?

Clockspeed isn't everything. Intel and AMD should be grateful Motorola hasn't built there own CPU yet. If they did it'd eat Intel and AMD parts for breakfast at 50% of the clock speed.
 
ModestGamer said:
Clockspeed isn't everything. Intel and AMD should be grateful Motorola hasn't built there own CPU yet. If they did it'd eat Intel and AMD parts for breakfast at 50% of the clock speed.
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Didn't Apple stop using Motorola processors because they sucked so hard?
 
ShawnD1 said:
Didn't Apple stop using Motorola processors because they sucked so hard?
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I believe heat was the issue with the Motorola cpu. The last Mac Pro that used a Motorola cpu had water-cooling instead of air. It was the hottest beast out at the time. 😉
 
ModestGamer said:
Clockspeed isn't everything. Intel and AMD should be grateful Motorola hasn't built there own CPU yet. If they did it'd eat Intel and AMD parts for breakfast at 50% of the clock speed.
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Well motorola isnt much of a threat considering they dont even have a license for x86, not to mention the heat and power constraints in a notebook.
 
ModestGamer said:
Clockspeed isn't everything. Intel and AMD should be grateful Motorola hasn't built there own CPU yet. If they did it'd eat Intel and AMD parts for breakfast at 50% of the clock speed.
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Obvious person doesn't understand x86, PC OS API overhead, and general purpose processing. Sure the little motorola chips (and many others) can run dedicated hardware and tighter-coded apps really well, but PCs are anything but efficient with the resources available.

And yes, Apple used Motorola stuff for years until it was so uncompetitive that they had to jump to Intel, whom their ads had made fun of for yeeeeears. The ironing.
 
xlbooyahlx said:
I believe heat was the issue with the Motorola cpu. The last Mac Pro that used a Motorola cpu had water-cooling instead of air. It was the hottest beast out at the time. 😉
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Hey, just noticed this was your first post! Welcome to AT!

Those G5s were pretty interesting, I remember seeing OSX on a Mac Pro and thinking it was cool but hella $$$ for the end result. AMD Opterons could be built at the time that totally mopped the floor with them.

EDIT : Whoops, G5 not G4.
 
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xlbooyahlx said:
I believe heat was the issue with the Motorola cpu. The last Mac Pro that used a Motorola cpu had water-cooling instead of air. It was the hottest beast out at the time. 😉
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Heat is always the issue. An i7 will clock up to 5ghz with proper cooling (link). The question we need to keep asking is how fast a processor works for a given heat envelope. If the laptop only allows 40W of heat to work with, then which processor will be the fastest for that amount of heat?

Do you remember the last IBM/Motorola found in Apple computers? The G5? It was a nice little processor, but it sucked.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1702/6
It loses against the Opteron (AMD) and it loses against the Xeon (Intel). It also had the problem of generating way too much heat to achieve those arguably horrible results. The G5 machines had incredibly high TDP ratings and the G5 Power Macs would come with something like 4 case fans just to cool the thing. video

So is Intel scared of Motorola? I'm not sure why they would be since they already beat Motorola in numerous battles (G3, G4, G5).
 
stuman74 said:
I'm looking at some budget laptops and want to get opinions in which processor is better...the T4500 or the T3300? My first thought obviously was the T4500 due to the faster clock, but I was surprised to see a higher passmark rating for the T3300. Why would that be (or is that benchmark really not accurate?).

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Pentium+Dual-Core+T4500+@+2.30GHz

http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=47511,42925,
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Passmark is 100% whack and should never be used. Look, it even put the T4400 above the the T4500. 😀😀😀😀😀😀 They are the exact same CPU except for the clockspeed!
 
ModestGamer said:
Clockspeed isn't everything. Intel and AMD should be grateful Motorola hasn't built there own CPU yet. If they did it'd eat Intel and AMD parts for breakfast at 50% of the clock speed.
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Were you not just saying in the other thread that you are smart as shit?

Does not compute.
 
Thanks...I ordered the one with the T4500.

Next question: Which is better? T5750 C2D or T4500 Dual Core?

My wife currently has a 1525 with the T5750...should I give her the newer 1545 with the T4500? Of course I'm the one who wants the one with more power (if they are really even different). Thanks!
 
The T4500 will be better in almost every way. Although it's branded 'Pentium', it's just another C2D variant w/1MB L2, but a 300mhz faster clock and 800mhz fsb vs. 667 with the 5750. In very rare circumstances the 2MB L2 in the 5750 will give it the lead, but in most cases that would never be able to surmount the core/bus speed deficit.

Remember that CPU speed is just one aspect, for example a 160GB 5400RPM sata drive in one laptop will seem slow even if the processor is twice as fast as another unit which has a 320gb 7200RPM drive.
 
xlbooyahlx said:
I believe heat was the issue with the Motorola cpu. The last Mac Pro that used a Motorola cpu had water-cooling instead of air. It was the hottest beast out at the time. 😉
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According to this page the Pentium D 840 (130W) was out at the same time as the 2.5GHz P970 (125W) (both April 2005), so Intel wins the hottest chip award.

The problem was the die size of the P970 was significantly smaller than the pentium, making it much harder to cool.
 
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