Which is worse terrorist or socialist?

[Patranus]

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[Red Dawn]

I'm having a hard time figuring this one out, anyone got any ideas?

Both are hellbent on destroying free societies, both ruin people's lives, and both dogmatically believe they're doing the right thing.

ATOT want to give some input?

Well I do know the fear mongering fanatics like you have a lot in common with terrorists. McViegh probably had thought similar to yours.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I'm having a hard time figuring this one out, anyone got any ideas?

Both are hellbent on destroying free societies, both ruin people's lives, and both dogmatically believe they're doing the right thing.

ATOT want to give some input?

The absolute worst are the extremists, capitalist society under Pinochet, Socialist society under Stalin, terroristm isn't an economic policy, but i wouldn't expect your dumb arse to know that so.

Now, ALL successful nations are non extremist societies, the US isn't a capitalist and France is not a socialist society, ALL of the succesful societies have an opern market bound under some rules, that makes them ALL mixed economies.

The US is no more capitalist than say... Denmark, just as an example, in fact it's probably more socialist since socialism in actuallity refers to the governments impact on the open market and the US gov has always been fucking around with it's market, not so much now as under Reagan (pure socialist) and GW the elder (extremist socialist) but less than under Clinton (capitalist) or GWB (corporatist).

 

[Zebo]

If were talking Islamic terrorists I'd say they subscribe to a pretty rigid interpretation of Koran which is decidingly right wing. e.g. women are chattel, no taxes (save 2.5% Zakat and Jiza on infidels), gold Dinar standard, corporal punishment, etc. Far off socialism.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

If were talking Islamic terrorists I'd say they subscribe to a pretty rigid interpretation of Koran which is decidingly right wing. e.g. women are chattel, no taxes (save 2.5% Zakat and Jiza on infidels), gold Dinar standard, corporal punishment, etc. Far off socialism.

Or you could take the ones that were the most prominent terrorists before GW's most wonderful adventure in Iraq, the LTTE, Hindus....

They outperformed Muslims by 100x1 before Iraq, and they are extreme leftists.

Just goes to show, extreme doesn't work, except for biker chicks... maybe..

 

[sao123]

One is definitely detrimental to society, whereas the other isn't so much.

Guess which one is which?

Terrorist - Goes out of his, her or their organisations way to blow things up, kill people, cause casualties and basically elevate public insecurity and hysteria as a result of the perceived or actual threat of terror

Socialism - Socialists want everything government controlled for the people and outside of the control of fat cat corporations. Doesn't take into account that governments generally don't serve the 'people' and they are inefficient, wasteful and self-supporting.

The lists are not exhaustive, but a brief summary of my thoughts, since that is all I could think of on the spur of the moment. Give me some more time and I can add to both lists.

you forgot
corporatism/capitalism - Corporatists want the government controlled by the wealthy and business owners outside of the control of the majority population. Doesn't take into account that businesses generally are privately owned, largely ignore the well being of the working class and product consumers, and they are greedy, ruthless, self-serving, and will ultimately return to a future form of feudalism.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

you forgot
corporatism/capitalism - Corporatists want the government controlled by the wealthy and business owners outside of the control of the majority population. Doesn't take into account that businesses generally are privately owned, largely ignore the well being of the working class and product consumers, and they are greedy, ruthless, self-serving, and will ultimately return to a future form of feudalism.

I like your knowledge of the other side.

And that is why every nation that has EVER been successful is a mixed economy... It's fucking pathetic to talk about Capitalist US and Socialist France because it's just not true, not on any level, France isn't socialist and the US isn't capitalist and cheers to you France and US, you get the fucking point about extremistm.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

I like your knowledge of the other side.

And that is why every nation that has EVER been successful is a mixed economy... It's fucking pathetic to talk about Capitalist US and Socialist France because it's just not true, not on any level, France isn't socialist and the US isn't capitalist and cheers to you France and US, you get the fucking point about extremistm.

It's easy to spot morons because they always talk in black and white terms. They don't understand subtlety or compromise. See TehMac, sao123, Spidey07, et al.

 

[StageLeft]

This is great. What's worse a pedophile or an illegal immigrant? How do you know? How can you tell the difference?

What's worse, a rapist or a union member?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Interesting question. So I will ans. it honestly. AT heart I am a pure socialist. That means every man /woman child has exactly the same advantages. same pay same food supply same housing same same same . Since I know the NWO doesn't want such things its all lies . That said unless were talking Pure socialism here . Anyone that is anything less and calls themself a socialist. Has a problem with me . I would be a terrorrist to their ideology. I would do almost anything God permitting to stop their ideology.

 

[Nemesis 1]

This is great. What's worse a pedophile or an illegal immigrant? How do you know? How can you tell the difference?

What's worse, a rapist or a union member?

Its not their fault their rapist. Its in the gene pool don't you understand that yet. Thats why we have gay marriage now . Its in the genes don't you get it . Soon enough rapist will have rights to be who they are . Its the samething with gays . Hell won't belong and will have Union representation for rapist

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

It's easy to spot morons because they always talk in black and white terms. They don't understand subtlety or compromise. See TehMac, sao123, Spidey07, et al.

TehMac is parodying himself, sao123 is not a poster i know much of, spidey07 ist Nazi Polizei wanting a white mans revolution against blacks and browns.

Nemesis1 though, is he always this drunk? I haven't seen one post by him that wasn't made by someone either so high or so drunk that they wouldn't spread their arsecheeks to the nearest police officer just for effects of their posts.

 

[Nemesis 1]

The absolute worst are the extremists, capitalist society under Pinochet, Socialist society under Stalin, terroristm isn't an economic policy, but i wouldn't expect your dumb arse to know that so.

Now, ALL successful nations are non extremist societies, the US isn't a capitalist and France is not a socialist society, ALL of the succesful societies have an opern market bound under some rules, that makes them ALL mixed economies.

The US is no more capitalist than say... Denmark, just as an example, in fact it's probably more socialist since socialism in actuallity refers to the governments impact on the open market and the US gov has always been fucking around with it's market, not so much now as under Reagan (pure socialist) and GW the elder (extremist socialist) but less than under Clinton (capitalist) or GWB (corporatist).

You pretty much are showing your slip here deary. When you said this

Clinton (capitalist)

You do know it was law enacted by clinton that set up the housing bubble.. Denial is futile. It was the worst atempt at socialism I have ever witnessed and lead to were we are now. Clinton capitalist. Reagon pure socialist . When ya get out of 1st grade maybe you will get it.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

This is great. What's worse a pedophile or an illegal immigrant? How do you know? How can you tell the difference?

What's worse, a rapist or a union member?

If you were a christian you'd know that all sins are equal and immediatly forgiven if you accept Jesus.

If not, a pedo, a rapist, it's clear to anyone who is not a believer in the bible where every sin is equal.

Wait, you are asking because you DO NOT know, right? You are a believer of the bible.

Yeah, you go ahead believing that sheit, laws still apply.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

You pretty much are showing your slip here deary. When you said this

Clinton (capitalist)

You do know it was law enacted by clinton that set up the housing bubble.. Denial is futile. It was the worst atempt at socialism I have ever witnessed and lead to were we are now. Clinton capitalist. Reagon pure socialist . When ya get out of 1st grade maybe you will get it.

Yeah, was that a law to benefit consumers under tax payer wealth or was that a corporate enacted non taxed loan without value limits?

Come on, get me up to speed here.

YOu actually think this was socialism?

You are more fucked up in you hread than i thought.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Worse? Terrorist.

Worst? TehMac

 

[Red Dawn]

What's worse, a rapist or a Canadian?

Uhhh...uhhhh... I guess a rapist.

 

[Nemesis 1]

If you were a christian you'd know that all sins are equal and immediatly forgiven if you accept Jesus.

If not, a pedo, a rapist, it's clear to anyone who is not a believer in the bible where every sin is equal.

Wait, you are asking because you DO NOT know, right? You are a believer of the bible.

Yeah, you go ahead believing that sheit, laws still apply.

Man your special . You said this ;

If you were a christian you'd know that all sins are equal and immediatly forgiven if you accept Jesus.

Give a half assed effort and see if you can tell what christ said about the unforgiveable sin. Its in the black book.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

It's easy to spot morons because they always talk in black and white terms. They don't understand subtlety or compromise. See TehMac, sao123, Spidey07, et al.

Problem is they will never admit it, they actually think they are more capitalistic than Norway or any other nation, and therefore, they are capitalist and everyone else is socialist and socialist is bad.

It's like a fucking kiddie pool.

Not that their politicians are much better, we have eggclock palin and obama the weak and who are we going ot pick...

Not that it would matter to them, in England this change has brought on some really big changes, in the us... business as usual, no one want's to piss of their supporters and by supporters i don't mean the people, they are irrelevant, i mean those who are in charge of getting someone elected.

That is how it works in the US, you could protest against it but the patriot act would find that you're an enemy if you ever got anything out of it.

Thats what the US is about todoay, just shut the fuck up and take it up the arse.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Man your special . You said this ;

If you were a christian you'd know that all sins are equal and immediatly forgiven if you accept Jesus.

Give a half assed effort and see if you can tell what christ said about the unforgiveable sin. Its in the black book.

Sorry, i can't keep track of your heroin infested wishful thoughts about hte bible.

Of course, i deny the holy spirit by heart and soul, i reject it as a falsity. (was that correct?)

I'm Jewish, i really don't give a fuck about any of your mumbo jumbo.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Sorry, i can't keep track of your heroin infested wishful thoughts about hte bible.

Of course, i deny the holy spirit by heart and soul, i reject it as a falsity. (was that correct?)

I'm Jewish, i really don't give a fuck about any of your mumbo jumbo.

Thats fine with me than you have NO right to spread BS lies like this.

If you were a christian you'd know that all sins are equal and immediatly forgiven if you accept Jesus.
So you just set their and wait for your Mesiah . Oh thats right he is here now , Elected in 08

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Thats fine with me than you have NO right to spread BS lies like this.

If you were a christian you'd know that all sins are equal and immediatly forgiven if you accept Jesus.
So you just set their and wait for your Mesiah . Oh thats right he is here now , Elected in 08

Son, if you were to outrank me in my chain, which no one can since Captain is the highest rank in this chain of command, then you might have the authority to telll me what i can and cannot say.

As it is, you do not, you believe in whatever you believe in and let me inform you that while i am of Jewish descent, i am an atheist.

There is no hope to wait for, there is now and that is it. We do plan for other events but none of us have any illusion that we'll exit alive.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Son, if you were to outrank me in my chain, which no one can since Captain is the highest rank in this chain of command, then you might have the authority to telll me what i can and cannot say.

As it is, you do not, you believe in whatever you believe in and let me inform you that while i am of Jewish descent, i am an atheist.

There is no hope to wait for, there is now and that is it. We do plan for other events but none of us have any illusion that we'll exit alive.

Ya see thats the really big differance between you and I . No man has authority over me . You on the other hand admire authority and seek it out and hold it up high and say onto the world . Look at me I have authority over others . Your just a big loser in the game you play . Without the guts and self authority to act upon your own authority as a human being . Rulers have not lead us to the promised land but only allow those who will follow them the crumbs off the table they feed off. You are nothing more than a boot licking fool.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Ya see thats the really big differance between you and I . No man has authority over me . You on the other hand admire authority and seek it out and hold it up high and say onto the world . Look at me I have authority over others . Your just a big loser in the game you play . Without the guts and self authority to act upon your own authority as a human being . Rulers have not lead us to the promised land but only allow those who will follow them the crumbs off the table they feed off. You are nothing more than a boot licking fool.

If you had the capacity to read what i just wrote, you'd understand that the answer to all of this drivel is no.

I take orders from no being, not man and not celestial bullsheit gods either.

I'm in command over my unit, i can be asked, not ordered.

No one, not Obama, not David, not any god has ANY say about it but me.

Don't you wish you had that deal where you didn't have to follow the voices in your head?

Let me recommend you a home remedy, add equal parts of water and lye to a lactone solvent, adjust the PH to slightly over seven, use it carefully, a teaspoon would probably be enough for a first try, normal dose is three times that so.

No, i'm not going to tell you what that is, all i can tell you is that it's very effective to fix broken brains so they calm down, it's been used for just that purpose for a LONG time.

Oh, and if it tastes like garlic, you need to raise the PH, you can do that with any alkaline.

 

[Fear No Evil]

If you had the capacity to read what i just wrote, you'd understand that the answer to all of this drivel is no.

I take orders from no being, not man and not celestial bullsheit gods either.

I'm in command over my unit, i can be asked, not ordered.

No one, not Obama, not David, not any god has ANY say about it but me.

Don't you wish you had that deal where you didn't have to follow the voices in your head?

Let me recommend you a home remedy, add equal parts of water and lye to a lactone solvent, adjust the PH to slightly over seven, use it carefully, a teaspoon would probably be enough for a first try, normal dose is three times that so.

No, i'm not going to tell you what that is, all i can tell you is that it's very effective to fix broken brains so they calm down, it's been used for just that purpose for a LONG time.

Oh, and if it tastes like garlic, you need to raise the PH, you can do that with any alkaline.

Seriously? I bet your wife looks at you with a stern look and you go cry like a puppy.